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Posted 03/16/2018   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sigh...an order-of-magnitude more that I can drop on stamps.
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Posted 03/16/2018   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A consignor to Noble Spirit, rather than the dealer itself, may have dictated the price here. There's a long history of owners, widows, executors or lawyers asking selling agents to open with a price that is unrealistic. It happens in real estate all the time.
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Posted 03/16/2018   10:47 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There is nothing wrong with asking for a high price. Many large stamp companies ask for the full Scott catalog prices.


That might be ok for individual stamps or sets that are in good condition, but not for a lot like this. NS only got this big because they started on ebay very early, not because they are good.
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Posted 03/16/2018   11:23 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There is nothing wrong with asking for a high price. Many large stamp companies ask for the full Scott catalog prices. They have many customers who trust them and are willing to pay that prices.


This seems to be a rule within the stamp collecting community but sometimes it's hard to watch. I used to buy box lots and would occasionally purchase estate material. Sometimes I'd find stamps on the original sales pages. I've sold stamp from the big retail company for an average 7% of the purchase price. I'm sure the owner trusted the retail company because they advertise a lot but that sure didn't help his estate. Isn't over paying for a collection just as bad as buying misdescribed material? The results are the same!
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Posted 03/17/2018   06:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How people spend their money is interesting. One person will wonder why someone would spend $1000 on stamps but see nothing wrong with going to Las Vegas to blow a lot of money at travel, tables, food, and shows.
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Posted 03/17/2018   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampwolf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kelleher has some nice stuff but if you read the terms of sale you will find that they charge a 20% buyers premium. Not to my liking. But this may be the norm. So your $2000 dollar bid suddenly becomes $2400. A bit steep in my estimation. JMO. Wolf-==-
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Posted 03/17/2018   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Kelleher buyer's fee is within the normal range these days for mainline philatelic auction companies. They also effectively lower their buyer's fee from 20% to 18% with prompt payment.
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Posted 03/17/2018   5:09 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Kelleher has some nice stuff but if you read the terms of sale you will find that they charge a 20% buyers premium. Not to my liking. But this may be the norm.


Standard actually, ranging from 15% to 22% these days. Some also charge an additional 3% for using credit cards, which can push it as high as 25%.

No biggie. Just factor the fees into your max cost and work backwards to get to your top bid.
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Posted 03/18/2018   12:11 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kelliher also rewards bidders that pay within 15 days a 2% discount regardless of payment method, so instead of charging 3% for a CC they give a 2% discount. That's a pretty good deal.
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Posted 03/18/2018   05:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently won a lot at Kelleher for $30. The commission was $6 and postage was $8. I paid the same day as the invoice. There was no charge or credit to the original invoice.
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Posted 03/18/2018   08:30 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From there terms and conditions;

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(d) Prompt Payment Discount - Successful bidders whose payment is received within 15 calendar days from the date of the auction, shall be entitled to a 2% prompt payment discount of the hammer price of each lot, regardless of the method payment.


They don't offer it on Michael Rogers Auctions, I've received it for the last 2 Collections auctions.
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Posted 03/18/2018   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I recently won a lot at Kelleher for $30. The commission was $6 and postage was $8. I paid the same day as the invoice. There was no charge or credit to the original invoice.


I assume you were making a point given the fact the discount was only $.60.
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Posted 03/18/2018   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was noting I did not get a discount. I checked what was actually charged in the initial invoice. The $6 hammer fee should cover it.
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Posted 03/19/2018   12:45 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the $8 s$30 lot is deadly - I got hit with a similar charge by Kelleher on a $40 lot and I said buh-bye
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Posted 03/19/2018   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eyeonwall - Yes ouch. This has ended my under $100 bidding with them.
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