India Envelope And Letter With Printed Stamp From 1937 And 1962?

Hi to all

I was bought this envelope in a "wild market". It's a marketplace where you can buy all the things without bills.
(old clothes, old shoes, artifacts, antiques, old paintings, semi-musical plates, etc.). One sentence I like to say "buy from needle to locomotive".

I'm interested in more information about these envelopes, marks on them as well as a postage stamp.
Also, with the envelope I also bought some letters that were sent in the envelopes.
The envelope is printed with a India postage stamp. On the letter, there is a mark of missionaries.

There is someone, maybe give me more information?
Thanks advance

Very Nice.

Hi @stampfan9
Thank you

So, if there is anybody with more information?

btw: Maybe I was in the wrong forum group open the topic?

Well it is strange because aerogrammes don't have letters inside them.
1)"No enclosures allowed" is written on the envelope.
2) They were all sent to yougoslavia.
3)All the letter Heads are different.
4)Your pics don't show the entire letters.

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Hi @perf12
You are right. I was not sure if these letters were in these envelopes.
I bought it in a pvc bag. Since I have noticed an identical marks on the letters and inside the envelope I thought it was connected. All envelopes are addressed to the same person.

The 4th image in the order (year 1963), shows the interior of the envelope. So the text is written directly into the envelope.
I'll try to find some information so I'll get back here.

Ivan, I guess that what you got in the market (we, in Barcelona, also have markets like yours and I've been in similar places all around Europe) is the correspondence file of a Franciscan Order monastery.
As far as I know, Croatia is a Catholic country and, for sure there are Franciscan monks there.
The Franciscans, have missions in non-Christian lands, like India, Africa, China, etc.
You have two diferent items that, by chance, ended together:
1.-"Normal letters" that lost the envelope (as it has not importance)
2.- "The written envelopes", actually aerogrames. These, are thin paper forms that you write on one side, wrap over itself and write the address on the other side. There's a "stamp" printed on the outher side of the envelope. It was a cheap and fast way to send airmail letters. I'm sure that you have had them in Croatia or had on the Yugoslavian time. On the written side our your aerogrames you can see the print of the Mission and a very similar one on the "normal letter".
Please, forgive the long writting.

Ecce Ancilla Domini - Behold the handmaiden of the Lord

Hi @Cursus
It was not long writing. Everything you wrote great.
Thank you very much for this information.
And yes, everything is true.
The only thing I can add is that envelopes were addressed to a person who was an engineer in Zagreb (on the Yugoslavian time).
So the envelope from India is not a correspondence between two missionaries (at least I think so).

I now need to find someone who collects things like this.
I will try to search other forums

Hi @smauggie
Thanks for information.

Best regards to both

Hi @perf12


Here they are (the envelopes).
Best regards

Here they are (the letters).

You might have them translated for the historical info
that could be gleaned from such letters..

Very interesting. It seems that the letters are written in German and are quite long. Perhaps, the Zagreb engineer had a relative (a brother?) or a close friend who was a missioneer? So, the letters from Italy, might refer to the time when he/she was studying for being missioneer or when having a rest.
Anyway, it gives the picture of a quite tolerant comunist Tito's Jugoslavia. This was the idea that I had by then (80's).

there was war in 1937 in China, and the nuns were directly in the war area. the letters are written very politely and try to reassure. nobody injured yet.

(I wrote about the two letters from 1937, which perhaps don't have any connection to the aerogramms from the 1960s?).

Hi @perf12
Yes, that's why I opened the topic to look for a member of a forum living in Austria. But no one is there no answer.
I will have to look for someone from Germany who is willing to help me.
Best regards

Hi @Cursus


Yes, everything is written in German. Letters and envelopes.
I hardly understand English, but German I do not know a single letter of the alphabet.
Everything else is speculation but as @perf12 says, I need to translate it from German to Croatian.
Additionally, I would not give public text here, so that someone would read it. I respect someone's privacy.
Thanks, best regards

Hi @stamperix
Thank you for this information.
Very interesting envelopes and letters. Maybe some of the historical information hides in them.
Best regards