New Canada Scott/Unitrade 90XII

New 2018 listing in Unitrade as 90xii

2c carmine, Type II, dry printing+
(17.8 to 18.5 mm in width)

+ Marler found 200 dry printed stamps among 30,000 copies he examined.
Besides the larger width, the stamps showed an unusual clarity in impression.
According to Marler, the dry printings come from plates 13 to 16, 31 and 32.

i will have to check that out Jogil.
I received Marler's book from a friend for a year to look through it.
Is it in the book, do you know..??

Robert

Yes, it is in it on pages 128 to 130

Have any mint copies turned up yet?

Mint copies do exist and they are shown in the King Edward VII Issue 1902-1912 book by Alan Selby. It does not appear that Unitrade has priced any 90xii stamps yet. Also, plates 33 and 34 should be included to the aforementioned listing.

I went through all of my copies that I have of Canada 90 and found one that I thought was dry printed because it was wider than the rest. However, on closer examination, I found the paper to have a horizontal wove instead of the usual vertical wove. This would mean that it was a wet printed stamp with horizontal wove paper. Also, it was scarcer than the rest because I only found one copy out of hundreds.

Thus, it should be pointed out that the dry printings are wider than the wet printing and they are on vertical wove paper. These Edward VII dry printed stamps 90xii are now the earliest intaglio dry printed postage stamps. Before this, it was believed that the Admiral 108c stamp was. This brings dry printing to be around 18 years earlier than originally thought.

In addition, it may also bring out a wet printed stamp on horizontal wove paper variety in order to avoid confusion between it and the dry printed stamp on vertical wove paper variety.

Here is a comparison between Canada 90 wet printed (left) and Canada 90xii dry printed (right).

A very significant width delta.


Don

Also note the clarity of the dry printing compared to the wet one.
The above pictured stamp is a dry printed stamp that I recently got and it is not the same one that I mentioned before it as being a horizontal wove stamp which is a used copy that I had found.

Well it is about time; after all, George Marler's "The Edward VII Issue of Canada" was printed in 1975. It has only taken Unitrade/Scott 43 years to recognize the different printing method. I think that Unitrade's current editor is far more interested in recent issues than he is in the classical era.

Are you thinking that these Experimental Printings could also have been done on the 2-cent Quebec Tercentenary that you pointed out in another thread?

The 2 cent Tercentenary stamps are both regular wet printing issues.
It is possible that their difference may have to do with flat vs rotary press printing.

With regards to wet printed stamps with vertical grain paper, the horizontal width size is usually narrower and the vertical length size usually stays the same and does not change like a dry printed stamp. (As long as the stamps being compared are both either from a flat press or from a rotary press. Not with one stamp being flat and the other stamp being rotary.)

With regards to wet printed stamps with horizontal grain paper, the vertical length size is usually shorter and the horizontal width size usually stays the same and does not change like a dry printed stamp. (As long as the stamps being compared are both either from a flat press or from a rotary press. Not with one stamp being flat and the other stamp being rotary.)

With regards to dry printed stamps, both the horizontal width size usually stays the same and does not change and the vertical length size usually stays the same and does not change. (As long as the stamps being compared are both either from a flat press or from a rotary press. Not with one stamp being flat and the other stamp being rotary.)

Another view of 90 and 90xii

Does the Unitrade 2019 and/or 2020 Canada stamp catalogues have a price listed for # 90xii?

The 2020 does not have a valuation for it.

This can also be shown by the following: