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Paper Backing For Sef-Adhesive Labels - Questions, Opinions, Ideas

 
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Posted 03/30/2018   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
okay, I have several questions, so let me give a little background to put things into perspective.

one of my areas of focus for my collecting is the multitude of obligatory (and non-obligatory) charity tax stamps from Yugoslavia and Serbia. virtually all of these are un-catalogued, have virtually no value, very limited interest and are (MOSTLY) common, though somewhat obscure. over the past few years, their appearance as self-adhesives has increased dramatically.
as I work on expanding in this section (the self-adhesive labels), it almost seems easier to buy in multiples (pairs, blocks of 4, etc.). price-wise, this is no problem. but my OCD drives me crazy in that I just want a single for my collection (stored on Vario pages).

so, here is my idea that I would like some advise and opinions on.
I want to take a single from the above mentioned multiples, put them on a fresh segment of uniform sized backing paper to put on the Vario pages. (while preserving the adhesive backing of the label)

my first and foremost question - is there a source for backing paper, or would something like glassine interleaves work?
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Posted 03/30/2018   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Know where you are coming from.

I have taken a gamble.
I choose not to preserve the gum, I release from the backing paper,
and dip into talcum powder, wipe clean, and place into a stamp mount.

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Posted 03/30/2018   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go to your local post office. They will save the backing paper if you ask them. By the way, I have heard that if you don't remove the gum and talcom as Rod suggests, the stamp will eventually discolor. The Christmas stamp of 1968 is a good example.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 03/30/2018   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
the stamp will eventually discolor. The Christmas stamp of 1968 is a good example.


Jack, I think that problem has been addressed with later stamp prod.
I have seen commentary of the early Australians self adhesive, falling off the backing paper within 3 years.

Have not seen or heard of the latest gum findings.
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Posted 03/31/2018   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jack, I believe the stamp you are referring to was issued in 1974, Scott 1552.
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Posted 03/31/2018   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is anyone aware of the specifications for modern adhesive stamps? In the engineering work that I have previously done with designing product labels, criteria like adhesive strength, durability, and even 'remove-ability' were highly defined. (Many certification labels were required to withstand certain conditions and resist removal.)

On a similar note, has anyone seem any claims that self-adhesive stamps will survive well for decades? Are there any claims of 'archival' properties? Postal services do not design stamps for collectors, they design them for use on mail. (This fact is clear with the use of kiosk produced stamps with thermal printing where the printing will disappear over time.) The postal service criteria is probably that they last only long enough for them to be used on mail.

Are we kidding ourselves that self-adhesive stamps will not deteriorate over time? Do we even know the chemical makeup of the adhesives? Is any philatelic organization working to give us some answers on the best way to preserve these stamps? If not, why not?

Frankly it appears to me that modern stamps are the ' children' of our hobby. Collectors have been left to their own to figure out how best to preserve them. Since very few collectors are well versed (or properly equipped) to do durability testing and accelerated age testing, the potential to miss the boat here is very real.
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Posted 03/31/2018   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This would be another topic that the philatelic press and most societies would not discuss much. The positive approach as you mention is to discuss how best to preserve self-adhesives.
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Posted 03/31/2018   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1990
Australia's first self adhesive, Pictormark Gumly Gumly NSW.

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Posted 03/31/2018   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Edited by rod222 - 04/01/2018 12:38 pm
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Posted 03/31/2018   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, did you try clicking on that link you posted? "We're very sorry but you're not where you thought you were going to end up".


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Posted 04/01/2018   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don brings up good points. So far I've noticed no problems
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Posted 04/01/2018   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
except the xmas stamp
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Posted 04/01/2018   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Rod, did you try clicking on that link you posted?


Thanks Peter.
It was Linn's
I'll try and dig it up again.

https://www.linns.com/insights/stam...-stamps.html
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