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Do You Consider This Mint/Used..??

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Posted 05/31/2018   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Take a look at this Post Card dated 1875

1- Stamp from post office..MINT
2- Stamp not used but hinged...MINT
3- Post card not mailed with no cancel..???
I don't think it was ever mailed.

Keep this in mind before you give an opinion.





Was going to be sent from Issac Silver Newmarket Ontario to R MacAulay in Montreal Quebec.

Also looked like the Post Card was printed on Horz. ribbed paper.



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Posted 05/31/2018   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, it could very well have been mailed. Lack of a cancel does not prove much?

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Posted 05/31/2018   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice card Robert!

I would say it was used but not postmarked. I've no idea if it was ever posted but I suspect it was.

I could imagine that Mr Munro sent out 100 of these cards that day from his office in Toronto and the post office clerk missed this one in the pile.

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Posted 05/31/2018   9:16 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would classify this as used, regardless of a cancel or not.
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Posted 05/31/2018   9:32 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Isaac Silver house in Newmarket is a fine historic building. Years ago I lived a few blocks away from there and often walked by it. Interestingly, the house was built in 1896, 21 years after this postcard. Apparently Isaac recovered well from declaring bankruptcy, in order to build one of the nicest houses in town.

http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep...aspx?id=9806
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Posted 06/01/2018   05:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Initial comments are confusing. There is no stamp - and obviously, therefore, there cannot be a 'hinge'.

It's a postal card. I would call it 'used' because it is written on. 'Mint' would imply it was in the same condition as when purchased from the post office.

It isn't cancelled, so no way to determine if ever actually got postal usage.

The basic answer to the main question, in my mind, would be used...
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Posted 06/01/2018   06:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with mdroth, Robert

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Posted 06/01/2018   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never mailed, hand delivered, mint
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Posted 06/01/2018   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This shows the limitations of the rigid classifications mint, used etc and why we now have hinged mint etc. I'd describe the card as "preprinted card used, no cancellation"
Of course it might be easier to dispose of the card and get one that fits a description properly!
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Posted 06/01/2018   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've sold hundreds of items of Canadian postal stationery. Material went through quite often without cancellation. This is a commercial mailing and the fact alone that the back is printed makes it used.
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Posted 06/01/2018   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good opinions guys..
Now lets think out of the box.

Collins dictionary classifies ""mint stamp"" as a stamp in perfect condition

Wikipedia classifies ""mint stamp"" as a mint stamp is one which is in its original state of issue, is unused, has never been mounted and has full gum, if issued with gum

Educalingo also classifies ""mint stamp"" a mint stamp is a stamp which is in its original state of issue, is unused, has never been mounted and has full gum, if issued with gum.

Now look at Wikipedia says has never been mounted and has full gum..According to that ANY stamp that has its gum removed like what we call HINGED is really not a mint stamp

NOW let me take you out of the box thinking..
1 - If I took a mint stamp and hinged it, is I still mint..?
2 - If I took a stamp and in the corner put my initial..is it still
mint..?

Now, think about this...A mint sheet printed by Canada Post..Now if we take it home and tear off one stamp..Now we have one stamp removed and placed in an album...It is NOT as defined as Wikipedia says..a mint stamp is one which is in its original state of issue...This single stamp is NOT in its original state...Any opinions guys..

Robert

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Posted 06/01/2018   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is used. As opposed to turning to Wiki, look in stamp catalogs for a definition. From Scott catalog in the postal card section,

Quote:
Values are for unused cards as sold by the Post Office, without printed or written address or message...


I do not think that the term 'mint' is typically used for postal cards, they are considered either 'Unused' or 'Used'.
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Posted 06/01/2018   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert - there's no box!

You're looking up irrelevant terms in this case. It is a post card - there is NO stamp! No stamp - no gum.

So any comparisons to actual stamps, issued with gum, are just apples to watermelons...

But to answer your questions that have nothing to do with your post card:


Quote:
NOW let me take you out of the box thinking..
1 - If I took a mint stamp and hinged it, is I still mint..?
2 - If I took a stamp and in the corner put my initial..is it still
mint..?


1 - No
2 - No
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Posted 06/01/2018   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry - forgot your other question:

When you go to the post office to buy one stamp from a sheet, the postal clerk removes the one stamp from the sheet & sells it to you. The one single stamp from the sheet, as delivered to you at the postal counter, is a mint stamp....

(Until you start drawing on it!)
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Posted 06/01/2018   8:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What box? I didn't see a box????
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Posted 06/01/2018   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys..I see you are not taking me serious, making fun and all that... ok end of post...Have a good evening.

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