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Compex 2018: I Came, I Saw, I... Was Sorely Disappointed.

 
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Posted 06/01/2018   9:58 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I guess they all can't be great shows. If they were, we wouldn't appreciate the good ones as much!

Sigh.

I left the house this morning at 6:30AM for the 3-hour drive up to River Grove, IL. This was a new venue this year for COMPEX, after many many years at the Forest View Educational Center in Arlington Heights, IL.

The drive up was mostly uneventful, until the last 10 minutes or so. Unlike the old venue, the new one is hidden away and incredibly difficult to find, even with a GPS. Coming in from the south there are some complex split-second switches you have to make in terms of exits/roads that could EASILY have been a fustercluck. Several dealers who came in the night before without GPS mentioned they had a hard time finding the place.

Instead of a nice large lobby area with tables and chairs where people could wait for the show to open, this new venue had people jam packed in a small standing-room-only entry way that got warmer, the more bodies that got packed in. In another stroke of monumental stupidity, there were no restrooms accessible without having to go past the security guard. They were nice enough to let you go through and watch to make sure you came back, but what idiocy is this? Aging show demographic and no restrooms or chairs? Gimme a [CENSORED] break!

The bourse was split into 2 parts, with the post card dealers and cachet makers relegated to a gymnasium about 3 nautical miles from the main entrance and bourse room. They could not have been pleased.

The main bourse room was tiny compared to the old venue. The dealers were jammed together and there was virtually no aisle space. Large dealers like Michael Ball and Jerry Koepp, that usually had huge sprawling layouts, had to make due with much smaller booths than they were used to (and thus fewer customers able to pull up chairs at any given time).

The weather up there was absotively GORGEOUS, upper 60s and low 70s, and sunny... a full 20 degrees lower than it is down here in Humidityville. It's amazing how much weather 150 miles apart can differ.

That said, even with the pleasant ambient temperatures, the room was AWFUL for the first several hours, as the air conditiong was set too low. I'm guessing that they didn't set the thermostat lower to compensate for the large number of warm bodies in the room. It took a solid 2 hours for the room to become bearable. It felt muggy. Stamps + humidity = NOT GOOD!

Not a single dealer or customer I spoke with had anything good to say about the new venue. I hope that they go back to the old one or find a new one next year, or I may not go back. I never did get a definitive answer as to why the show moved venues. Some speculated that the new place was cheaper (it darned well better be!) and others said the old venue didn't want the show back (the facility changed ownership in recent years, so that is plausible).

So how were the pickings?

In a word: slim.

I ended up making purchases from only 2 dealers. For anyone that knows me, that is virtually unheard of at a show, especially a larger show. I almost always exceed my planned show budget, but this time came back with a fair amount of money unspent.

As is usually the case, Denny Peoples was my savior. He's been compiling material for NAPEX next weekend, where the annual ARA meeting is taking place, so he had some nice material. Unfortunately, since he knows he'll have ready clientele next weekend, he didn't discount as deep as I can sometimes convince him to cut.

Still, I purchased a small revenue stamp/document "anything and everything" lot from him to hunt through, some documents with great aesthetics including a great Lincoln imagery piece, and a lovely illegal usage of Scott #76 on an installment certificate for the purchase of stock.

From the other dealer I purchased a couple of proprietary cancels, cherrypicked a couple plate varieties, and found a Pacific Mail Steamship cancel that had it been my only purchase of the day, would still have made the trip worth making.

So yes, I got some goodies, but the overall experience of the day was incredibly underwhelming.

P.S. I was pleasantly surprised to see Rusty Shoaf (Boilermaker Stamps) back in the fold, no longer working for Harmer Schau. Apparently living expenses in California ended up being untenable and his wife hated living out there, so they moved back to Indiana and once he builds up inventory he'll be doing shows full time again. He's one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet.
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Posted 06/01/2018   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I jokingly gave Danny Peoples a hard time for saving all the good stuff for you and not letting anyone else see it. Fortunately you don't collect EVERYTHING. :-)
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Posted 06/01/2018   11:02 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not yet, but I'm working on it.
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Posted 06/02/2018   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saw a few photos, it did look very crowded together.
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Posted 06/03/2018   6:04 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And now the goodies from the show (bulk lot notwithstanding).

First, the individual stamps, some proprietary cancels I didn't already have:












A bold example of the 2nd issue 60c with foreign entry of 70c at the top.




And now the documents...

A CDV with a "FINE ART GALLERY" cancel.






A few 1898-era items...











A great large-format oval cancel:






A lovely pointed elliptical cancel design:




An interesting "coupon note":




A boating stamp on license with a first day of issue cancel:




And the last 2 items, the neatest pickups...

A paid bill from "The Great Republic Weekly" to "The National Lincoln Monument Association" for printing of circulars, etc. with Lincoln vignette at top and bold embossed seal at bottom.




An illegal use of Scott #76 as revenue stamp tied by embossed company seal to a certificate for the second installment payment on a purchase of one share of stock in "Sterling's Ambrosia Manufacturing Company." Sterling's Ambrosia was a hair tonic. Great proprietary medicine item.



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Posted 07/21/2018   10:05 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A follow-up. It fell off my radar, but I finally remembered to provide the show my feedback on the new show location via their Contact Us form. Hopefully that form actually feeds to a human being (you'd be surprised as to how many website contact forms are misconfigured and the inquiries just evaporate into the ether).


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Good morning,

I've been hesitating on sending this, but I feel that ultimately it's my responsibility to provide feedback as a regular COMPEX attendee over the last 10 years.

The new facility this year was horrendous. Difficult to find. Tiny room with cramped aisles. AC wasn't set high enough to keep up for the first 3 hours and it felt like a swamp: not good for stamps. Fewer dealers. The waiting area before the show opened was a tiny vestibule that got hotter and hotter the more warm bodies that got crammedd in there, with no seating (with an older customer base this is a travesty!) and no access to restrooms.

In short, it was a very bad experience. If the show is held at the same location next year, I won't be making the 3 hour drive.

I don't know why the show moved. The old location was WONDERFUL!

Thank you for listening.
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Posted 07/21/2018   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Will you be coming to APS in Columbus?
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Posted 07/21/2018   11:05 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, June through October are no-go months for me due to work schedule. The next show I do (outside of my local show) will be CHICAGOPEX in November.
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Posted 07/21/2018   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alas, I don't know if I will be there this year.
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Posted 07/23/2018   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A "Coupon Note"!? Re-post that one on the Checks thread and let's talk more about it. I've never heard of something like that.
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Posted 07/23/2018   6:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a promissory note to pay interest on a bond coupon. The bank must have bought the bond; they must have purchased enough bonds to make having a special note for them practical.
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