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Cartel Fake/Manufactured $2 Columbian Scott 242

 
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Posted 10/18/2018   07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
An excellent example of a fake stamp that the cartel/Philip Ryle has salted into a group lot.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Mint-NH...AOSw8MZbwHjE
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Posted 10/18/2018   07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love the pristine fake Herst cards with the Nassau street address. Does anyone really think the corners of a decades old dealer card would never be bumped? These cards look like they just came of the printer. Were top opening clear mounts even available during the Herman Herst 116 Nassua street location days?
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Posted 10/18/2018   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They probably were, although these cards are clearly fakes.
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Posted 10/18/2018   08:41 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Laughable. The glossy surface of the black printing on those corner cards is a byproduct of modern laser printing. Offset printed black, especially from that era, does not have that glossy surface.

And the bid is over $4K. P.T. Barnum was right: There's one born every minute.
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Posted 10/18/2018   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please illuminate, when you say fake, totally fake, reperfed, regummed??
I mean the perfs look all wrong, but what else.
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Edited by Willwood42 - 10/18/2018 09:09 am
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Posted 10/18/2018   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Willwood - Given that the perforations are fake there are three distinct possibilities as to what is going on here. An outright reproduction, an altered cardboard proof or an altered proof on India. After being created it was gummed. Perhaps others can add their thoughts as to what was done here.
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Posted 10/18/2018   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The paper is entirely too white, and clearly not correct for the regular issue.

Combined with the perforations - it just screams that this is a perforated proof or similar manufactured item.
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Posted 10/18/2018   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rogdcam & Txstamp. I guess, ever vigilant , is the watchword.
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Posted 10/18/2018   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the 1992 printing, without the year date added.
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Posted 10/18/2018   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an India proof with added fake perfs.
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Posted 10/18/2018   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Somebody is reading this thread. The listing has been ended.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/26398641...252F-%25252F263986419712%25253Fhash%25253Ditem3d76d11800%25253Ag%25253Ais8aaosw8mzbwhje%25252F%252526nordt%25253Dtrue%252526orig_cvip%25253Dtrue%252523itemTitle%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1708841311684%2526rvr_ts%253D8834d5b91660aadcce356c2bfff5fa66&ul_noapp=true
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Posted 10/18/2018   1:29 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or, given the Cartel's shenanigans, they may very well have contacted the high bidder to negotiate a quick-sell price off ebay. Churn and burn.

I highly doubt that discussions here or anywhere else would prompt a Cartel seller to end a listing. It never has before.
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Edited by revenuecollector - 10/18/2018 1:30 pm
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Posted 10/18/2018   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guess we can expect to see better fakes now, ones with simulated aging added to the cards. Need to make Philip proud, and speaking of which...how are the visits going?
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