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1867 3c Grill Mystery

 
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Posted 12/21/2018   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone have any thoughts on this grill? It doesn't look like a standard grill but it also doesn't look fake. Very unusual. Points are down and run vertically.


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Posted 12/21/2018   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Multiple grill
More info (towards bottom of page)
http://stampsmarter.com/learning/ID...8Grills.html
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Posted 12/21/2018   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't you expect to see a gap, a spacing change, and angle change or something, if it was a multiple grill? The points seem to be in perfectly straight and even lines across. I suppose your suggestion is the most likely, but I'm still suspicious.

Edit: After thinking about it, I guess it's the only real possibility. I've stared at it too long. Calling it a double grill and moving on. Thanks.
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Posted 12/21/2018   1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for showing this very interesting stamp, interesting grill and cancel also. would be good to see a photo with oblique light oft the grill, perhaps. I would also expect seeing a double grill more separate or overlaying which is not the case here.
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Posted 12/21/2018   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks too symmetrical for multiple grills to me, but I'm more often wrong than right.
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Posted 12/21/2018   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is as good as I could get with oblique light.

I hadn't noticed the cancel focusing on the grill. It is interesting. A negative 6 leaf clover.

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Posted 12/21/2018   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I concur with stallzer, looks too symmetrical.

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Posted 12/21/2018   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I meant the stamp on the desk and then oblique light, but the photo directly from over the stamp.
when I look a bit longer at your first scan, I think I see the overlaying in the middle 5 or 6 vertical rows.

for me (not an expert) the B grill should be more obvious, and the C grill has sometimes some more grill points, but more weak than in your example, so if it was my stamp I would now indeed assume a double grill, but a very nice stamp which not many collections show.
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Posted 12/21/2018   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's points down, so B and C are ruled out. It is certainly unusual. I was going to pass it by thinking it a not-very-nice 94. Glad I checked.
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Posted 12/21/2018   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, this got more interesting. There are some references to a type of double grill known as the "miracle grill" where the two line up perfectly to form one big rectangle. Here's an article about it in the Chronicle:

https://chronicle.uspcs.org/PDF/Chr...le_94/94.pdf
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Posted 12/22/2018   01:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very unusual item. You've also got a small amount of the next stamp on the right edge. Although may not be worth it, I'd consider sending that one to the PF to get a cert...
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Posted 12/22/2018   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to the 2 page "Miracle' double grill article, rather than all 75 pages of Volume 29.

http://chronicle.uspcs.org/pdf/Chro..._94/8231.pdf
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