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What Is This St Helena 1947 Royal Visit Overprint?

 
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Posted 12/26/2018   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently acquired this St Helena KGVI 1d definitive somewhat crudely overprinted "ROYAL VISIT 29TH APRIL 1947." The overprint is not listed and I was unable to find any examples online. Is this a privately produced fantasy overprint, or something else? Any information would be appreciated.

George VI and the royal family visited St Helena in April 1947 while on the way back to Britain from Southern Africa (the royal visit resulted in stamp issues in South Africa and other colonies in the area).



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Posted 12/26/2018   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/26/2018   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spink auction Vetsey Collection 13 Oct 2010___You have a rare stamp pal !




Official visit stamp:




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Posted 12/26/2018   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing about these in the 2018 Gibbons. Nice find Halfpenny Yellow
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Posted 12/26/2018   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I Don't know who that K.H. Clarke was;he was not the acting Governor of St. Helena in
1947 or any other time for that matter.Neither Ascension Island ????

http://sainthelenaisland.info/governor.htm
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... and don't let them tease you about those perfs !!!

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Wow, thanks for the replies. :)

Shame about the damage on the top left corner, but I'm still very happy. I believe I bought it a few months ago from a 5c box at a stamp exhibition, and I found it now while sorting through the stamps country-by-country. No idea how a trial overprint ended up in a dealer's junk box...

I'm posting a transcript of the Spink auction description here (so it will be visible on Google):

Quote:
Auction: 1026 – British Empire Stamps & Covers from the Vestey Collection
Lot: 604
St. Helena 1947 (29 Apr.) Royal Visit trial overprints presented by Captain Clarke to his brother K. H. Clarke, the acting Governor, comprising 1938-44 1/2d. and 1 1/2d. each overprinted "royal visit/29th april,/1947.", 1d., 2d. and 3d. grey each overprinted "first/royal visit/29th april/1947." and 1 1/2d. overprinted "royal visit/29th april/1947", fresh mint with all but the first marginal. A very rare and unusual group. Photo Estimate £400-500
Note: These stamps were prepared in commemoration of the visit of Princess Elizabeth and the Royal Family aboard HMS "Vanguard" during the Royal Tour to South Africa provenance Sotheby's, September 1984
Sold for £950


It appears that each of these may exist with different overprints. The 1d in the Spink lot includes "FIRST", while mine does not. The lot also contained two 1½d stamps, apparently with minor differences in the text (the comma after "APRIL" and full stop after "1947").

According to the World Statesmen website ( http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Saint_Helena.htm ), at the time the Acting Governor was Frank Edward Gilpin, who was acting for William Bain Gray. Only two Clarkes are mentioned: a Robert Clarke who was Acting Governor in 1850-51, and a Maurice Campbell Clarke who was Resident magistrate (managers of the Cable and Wireless Ltd.) from 1944-47. Maybe this could be the Captain Clarke who was involved in the overprints?
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Posted 12/26/2018   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe K. H. Clarke was the Acting Acting Governor!
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Posted 12/28/2018   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm wondering if this isn't just a bogus overprint that worked it's way into
philatelic circles over the years?.There have been précédents.

https://goscf.com/t/62375
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Posted 12/28/2018   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The fonts have a characteristic look too them.The "T" with the long downward serifs..What is the name of this Font type? Origin?

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Posted 12/28/2018   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is some resemblance to a condensed form of Bodoni, such as this: https://www.whatfontis.com/FF_OPTIP...i-Compr.font

There are some differences, however, especially when it comes to the numerals (note the "2", "4" and "7").
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Posted 12/28/2018   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the text of the overprint in Bodoni MT Condensed. Once again, there are differences (the serifs and all the numerals), but there's some resemblance.



The original Bodoni typeface dates back to the late 18th century, so there are probably countless variations and derivatives of it.
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You did not use the Fonts in your link.There is the Nirvana font also;subtype with
Narrow "O;Longer thinner ends of the serifs on "T".
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Posted 12/28/2018   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's a different derivative of Bodoni. The one in the link is "OPTIPosterBodoni-Compr font" while the one in my comparison is "Bodoni MT Condensed".

Most probably there's no digital version of the exact typeface as used on the overprint, but broadly speaking, I think that these Bodoni-derived typefaces come pretty close.

The Nirvana typeface ( https://www.ffonts.net/Nirvana.font ) is obviously named after Kurt Cobain's band, which (according to Wikipedia) used the Onyx typeface on its logo. Onyx is in turn based on a derivative of Bodoni too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodoni
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