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Ebay Now Collects Sales Tax

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Posted 10/02/2019   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The new policy is a thinly veiled way to say " ebay will now collect seller fees on sales tax too."
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Posted 10/02/2019   5:39 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The new policy is a thinly veiled way to say " ebay will now collect seller fees on sales tax too."


How do you get that? Since state sales tax is never even received by the seller, how and why would they charge fees on it? With the base product amount and shipping charges, the seller RECEIVES those amounts, therefore ebay can charge fees on them. That isn't the case with sales tax.

I don't see this at all.
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Posted 10/02/2019   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's what ebay says:


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For transactions that require ebay to collect tax from buyers, the tax amount will be included in the gross purchase amount to be processed. Once settled, the tax amount will be automatically deducted for remittance to the applicable taxing authority.


Note the order of operations:


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1. tax amount will be included in the gross purchase amount to be processed.

2. Once settled,

3. the tax amount will be automatically deducted for remittance to the applicable taxing authority.


The tax will come out "once settled" or after fees are removed.
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Posted 10/02/2019   7:05 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're reading too much into this general wording. The tax amount has to be included in the gross amount to be processed, as that gross amount is what the buyer is charged, which is what they mean by "processed." The very next phrase "once settled," means specifically "Once the payment is made successfully..."

Again, I disagree with your interpretation. Until we have exact terms and conditions language, it's open to speculation.

Given that ebay has been collecting sales tax for several states for months now, if they were charging seller fees on the tax amount, someone would have raised a ruckus by now...
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Posted 10/02/2019   7:05 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at my September Invoice. They charge Final Value fee on sales price and on a separate line Final Value Fee on Shipping, As far as I can see sales tax doesn't show up.
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Posted 10/02/2019   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We shall see. It goes into effect in November.
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Posted 10/02/2019   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Does ebay collect sales tax on purchases from the official USPS store on ebay?

They seem to have fixed this as it looks like they're currently not collecting tax on USPS sales. Earlier this year, they were. It also looks like they've exempted postage in general (including discount postage from non-USPS sellers), where they collected on that earlier this year as well. I may be able to start buying postage on ebay again. When they first started collecting tax, the tax on postage made buying on ebay uncompetitive vs. other mail order options.
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Posted 10/02/2019   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They should be collecting tax on postage from non-USPS sellers.
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Posted 10/02/2019   10:15 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They should be collecting tax on postage from non-USPS sellers.


What makes you think they aren't? If it's being sold to one of the states that ebay has to collect sales tax for, it would be a taxable sale.
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Posted 10/02/2019   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rev - See post above mine.
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Posted 10/02/2019   10:37 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the postage is sold at or below face, why should it be taxed???
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Posted 10/02/2019   11:20 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If the postage is sold at or below face, why should it be taxed???


Why wouldn't it be? The amount an item sells for doesn't determine whether it is taxable or not.


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It also looks like they've exempted postage in general (including discount postage from non-USPS sellers), where they collected on that earlier this year as well.


Citation needed. A whole lot of anecdotal information in this thread...
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Posted 10/03/2019   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Sales of goods – All sales of tangible personal property to customers are retail sales and subject to sales tax unless specifically exempted. For example, sales of postage stamps are exempt from sales tax.


Washington State DOR does not tax the sale of postage stamps according to this link:

https://dor.wa.gov/doing-business/b...il-sales-tax

It is not clear to me that they include postage stamps for collectors.

Kansas exempts the sale of stamps intended for use as postage, even if sold for more than face.

North Carolina does not specifically exempt taxing the resale of postage stamps.

USPS (Federal) regulations prohibit states from taxing the sale of postage stamps by the post office.

Some states may tax stamps sold by retailers for more than face, but only amounts added to their cost. (I did not have time to find a specific example).

This just in from eCommerceBytes - regarding the ebay November Revolution:

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/bl...0028413.html

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Posted 10/03/2019   07:36 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the above link:


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"In states where ebay is required to collect Internet Sales Tax from buyers, order totals sent for processing will reflect the gross order amount inclusive of tax. The PayPal processing fee applies to the gross transaction value (item value, shipping and sales tax). ebay Final Value fee's will be based on item price and shipping cost. No ebay Final Value fee will be charged for sales tax.

"Sellers will need to contact PayPal for more information about PayPal fees and the 1099 form."


(emphasis added)

So no ebay fees on the sales tax, but PayPal fees on the sales tax. That aligns with what traditional merchants have to pay credit card processors, to my knowledge. When you swipe your card at a brick & mortar store, the merchant pays credit card fees on the total amount being paid, not just the nontaxable portion.
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Posted 10/04/2019   10:35 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My buyers are complaining.

ebay is collecting sales tax from California customers, I know I didn't sell $500K in CA so ebay must be considering all sales in CA as the threshold?

Is ebay adding VAT to my Invoices for European sales now? I am getting complaints about that and I know I didn't add VAT. I feel like a mushroom!

I don't see what ebay sends to my customers so it's always a surprise. Sometimes I wish I could buy a couple of my own items just to see how it works.
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