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Paris Bourse Stamp Collection Addition .

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Posted 03/08/2019   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add floortrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Always a happy day when I find another stamp to add to my 1860's - 1870's PARIS BOURSE stamp collection .
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Posted 03/08/2019   10:37 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go on, tell us - what's the story behind this?
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Posted 03/08/2019   7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK ---Before they had a stamp market place in London on the Strand or a Nassau Street in New York City for stamp dealing there was the Paris Bourse .

There are records showing stamp collecting started with a few collectors around 1855,but the first marketplace was in Paris about 1860 or 1861 . So the first display of stamps were done by sellers who pinned up on boards for the delectation of passerby's.

Since starting my collection ,I have found out that at close to or at the same time the first stamp dealers in the U.S. were doing the same thing of pinning stamps to boards along the fences of New York City Hall Park .

So my collection is for stamps before 1865, that have a clear pin hole thru the center or close to the center of the stamp . If you look close at my stamp there is a nice round pin hole below the ear of the Queen just to the left of the black cancel mark . I have five stamps over the years that have clear holes in them which I find in collections that I break down .

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Posted 03/08/2019   7:35 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent - thanks!
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Posted 03/08/2019   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just mounted this stamp and now have 6 stamps on my page .
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Posted 03/08/2019   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I knew about Parisians pinning stamps to boards back in the day but it's great to know someone is actively collecting them!
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Posted 03/09/2019   03:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How are 'Paris Bourse Stamps' authenticated?
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Posted 03/09/2019   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since they have a much lower market value than unpinned stamps. It serves no purpose for forgers to create them .

The standard I use is the overall stamp is in very good condition with only a pin hole around the center ,understood, a damaged stamp nobody cares about and they could just add a pin hole . I don't purchase them ,they come from bigger lots that I purchase and many times the former owner hides the fact it has a pinhole like the above example shows .
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Posted 03/09/2019   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have several pinholes that have Germanic characteristics.
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Posted 03/09/2019   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is the difference in the pinhole between New York city hall park and Paris Bourse. I have read that in the !9th century children used to string stamps together to make long paper snakes. Do any sich snakes still exist? would the hole be more ragged?
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Posted 03/09/2019   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the first years of "timbromanie", as this collection was called, collectors sought to meet to make exchanges. For lack of associations then, the Parisian gardens served as meeting places: the Palais-Royal in 1860, then the garden of Luxembourg for example.

In 1887, a landowner sold the land of the Carré Marigny to the city of Paris against the promise of installing a stamp market there. Near the Avenue des Champs-Elysées and the Elysée Palace, the market of professional merchants is installed on Avenue Gabriel on Thursday, Saturday, Sunday and holidays. Each year, an event attracts more merchants, the "Four Days of Marigny".(translation)
http://www.phil-ouest.com/Timbre.ph...bres_BF_2010
1860 card (Note the girl on the right is holding an album.The boys seem to have some sort of bidding going on !)





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Posted 03/09/2019   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a great idea for an exhibit, what does it matter if it came from the bourse or not. Cannot be proven anyway...

I imagine it was windy outdoors at the Paris bourse, and the only practical way to display one's material was to pin it.

A display showing pre-1865 pinned stamps, Lallier album pages, some ephemera from club meetings etc. would be quite nostalgic. Bravo, and yes, more please.
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Posted 03/09/2019   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The world's first printed stamp Album, 1863
France
Lallier Utube
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Edited by rod222 - 03/09/2019 6:02 pm
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Posted 03/09/2019   6:07 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now there's a boy who doesn't know how to turn the pages of books!
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Posted 03/09/2019   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cringed when he began "flipping"
The audio commentary was good though.


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Posted 03/09/2019   6:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A close up of a Lallier album of 1863:
http://docs.philateliques.free.fr/l.../lallier.php
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