Hungary - Two Errors?

More finds from this recent kilo ware lot. This lot has been one of the more frustrating yet incredibly interesting acquisitions I have made.
Has anyone seen these before? I did not find them listed anywhere.

Looks very similar to my example.
(Not a Hungary specialist)
Your P9 I have as a complete imperf, perhaps yours a private perforation?

The postage due is an interesting stamp.

The stock card suggests this is Sc. #J153 but I wonder if it may be Sc. #J169 without the surcharge.

Perhaps it's an unissued stamp or printer's waste or from unfinished stock?

I don't see anything about this in Scott, SG or Michel but I might well be suffering from catalogue blindness!

This newspaper stamp was issued imperf but many of these issues were privately perforated by publishers to make them easier to handle.