Germania, Once Again.....

Can anyone help w/ deciphering the overprint on the below? I can tell the 15. I just dont have enough experience to know what the rest is. I only have a Scott 2019 Vol 3A to work with. Also, the perf's are 14 x 14 1/2 and thats stumping me too bc I cannot find this particular one. I see 14 or 14, 14 1/2 listed but not 14 x 14 1/2. Trying to figure out the Scott no.

It's from the German occupation of Romania during WWI. See here for more info.

it's SC 120 with an overprint, but don't know the overprint.

edit: woops! PostmasterGS answered while I was still thinking. Did I at least get the 120 right?

tks! this would have taken me awhile!! Here is the mvir.... The M.V.i.R. overprint, used for many of these German and Romanian stamps, stands for "Militärverwaltung in Rumänien" or "Military Administration in Romania". Still checking on the Scott 120... Tks all!!

so this is what I dont understand - this stamp is 14 x 14 1/2 and the listing for Scott 120 reads, Perf. 14, 14 1/2.

I dont see in the catalogue what is the difference between the two. I know 14 x 14 1/2 means a particular stamp has horizontal 14 by 14 1/2 vertical. Does the listing Perf. 14, 14 1/2 meant that the particular stamp can be either a 14 or a 14 1/2?? If that is the case than this cannot be a Scott 120 as its 14 x 14 1/2, right?

I see what you mean. I just reread the introduction in the catalogue and it doesn't specify the use of the comma. With no key it could mean a couple different things. I'm still learning...

I think I need the Scott vol. 5 to get it exactly. In my album I have one, but, its on the Romania Postal Tax Stamps page of 1943-47 and not in a pre-printed box - just added. The one that I have on the next page, Romania Occupation Stamps, 1918, is overprinted with Rumunien 15 not as above

I checked Vol. 5 - it doesn't specify. Says design A22 and overprint on 15pf. I just checked my album: the stamp I have in 120 is 14.5x14.5, but the one I have in 100 is 14x14.5. Looks like Imade an error somewhere. My 100 is definitely Dk violet and my 120 is definitely Violet brown. Yours appears Dk violet. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

oh wait - Vol 5 says on German stamps 1905-1917. that excludes 120. must be 100 despite the perfs.




edit: added pic.

Big help to all. Im going with 3N5. I check the older ones I have and they are both 14 x 14.5

All of Scott's Germany listings are a mess. The underlying stamp is Germany Sc 100. Michel lists the perforation as comb 14:14 1/4.

If you're having trouble differentiating Germanias, try the guide here. It doesn't cover overprints, but it should help with the underlying issues.

Postmastergs


how did you get that list? Do you have to be a member of the site? Is it just under resources? I've been to the site before and on there now, but not seen anything like that before? Here is another im looking at---- all 3 are suppose to be the same color(lt gray), but the one im trying to id, bottom right, looks different from the other 2 1/2, colorwise and possibly paper. Im guessing the 2 1/2's have to be Scott 97's even if the color doesnt look right.

postmasterGS



Another question on the list - it lists the 2 1/2 pfg, Scott 97 with watermark Lonzenges, but the Scott catalogue doesnt and mine doest have a wmk...

The link is in the Resources section, and you don't have to be a member to use any portion of the website except one area limited to members of the German Colonies Collectors Group.



There was only one 2 1/2 Pfennig Germania, Scott 97. It has a watermark. The Scott listing omits that note for some reason. If you're not seeing it on yours it's probably just a weak watermark due to declining production quality as WWI wore on.

The three you show are Scott 96 (2 Pf) and Scott 97 (2 1/2 Pf). The 96 and 97 colors should be different. Your bottom right 97 is discolored by dirt.

UPDATE.... Tks again for the link info and the update. My Scott 97 does have the wmk. I missed it the 1st time. just re-checked its there. Scott doesnt list it. Scott also listes 96 and 97 as the same color for some reason. The more I go on the more misprints or whatever I seem to find in Scott...

Hello.
I have an excel with all the germanies.
If anyone wants it, just send me a message and I'll attach the Excell book.
Regards.