Expertising Stamps; Help

I have about decided to give up on seeing "grills" of any nature unless charcoal comes with it. Can anyone id this one for sure:

Scott 114, with evidence of a pressed grill in the region highlighted in this image. It's fairly common for the grill to be pressed flat over time as stamps are handled or compressed in album pages, especially for a stamp like this that is 150 years old this year.

Looks like the grill is in the center of the stamp (slightly up and right) but it has been flattened out. You can see the horizontal shadows. That may be all that you get with this one.

BTW - If you say 114 then I grill hot dogs; if you were to say otherwise it will be steak!



The dogs got my bet, even if the grill isn't to be seen.

Yeah, I thought I saw the grill, but only after seeing the picture; much easier to see it in the pic.

I also used direct sunlight for the pics, so maybe that is why the grill showed up. I'll try that with my many other grillers.

How about this one:

I can see! Sunlight helps. Finally found a grill on my own! This stamp has seen better days for sure:

I see the hint of a grill in the center of the ten cent and right center of the 2 cent. I would soak both of them and see if some of the old gunk on them comes clean. As for scott numbers, if I remember correctly, no one gives certificates for any of this issue without a grill in used condition. These were notorious for having weak grills that could be pressed out. So just assume used ones are scott 112-122.

Okay, got it. The books I referred to suggested the same in so many words.

Thanks. Every time I use this site I learn something!! Much appreciated!!!