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Sigh. Where Do These Wacky Ebay Sellers Keep Coming From?

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Posted 04/17/2019   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
They're like cockroaches that you just can't ever get entirely rid of.

Jim

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Cent-Red...AOSwm4tctycr



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Posted 04/17/2019   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, did you not hear?. It is the quick get rich scheme. Some one sold an unknowledgable person a collection of useless material but told them they were purchasing a gold mine. Guess who ended up making the money? Yes, definately not the guy now holding the bag or boxes of kiloware material.

And congrats on the win Jim. You got the pretty one.
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Posted 04/17/2019   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ireland2018 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is like one I found on Craigslist. Guy was selling similar ones for like 2500 for 5 saying that the one who bought it could make a fortune by reselling them.
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Posted 04/18/2019   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sad, so many people think because it's "old" it has to be worth a fortune.

I suppose I should feel sorry for anyone who buys this stuff at such outrageous prices, but if they took the time to check out what they were buying, they wouldn't buy it in the first place.
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Posted 04/18/2019   04:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dry Tech to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, these are a bargain compared to that 319 at just a tad under 200,000 on ebay. I'm waiting on that 300 offered at only a billion bucks. Cheap!

Hopefully anyone who can afford to pay hundreds for a stamp they know nothing about is too smart to do so.
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Posted 04/18/2019   05:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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... you just can't ever get entirely rid of...


This is why oversight on ebay does not work; the only effective weapon in this war is buyer education.
Don
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Posted 04/18/2019   05:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I have said a 100 times "if ebay charged a listing fee, based on start price, and lowered their final final fee, to compensate, this crap would stop !"

That is how they used to operate and items were priced to sell.
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Posted 04/18/2019   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hoosierboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, ebay needs to go back to the good old days. It seems like every new wrinkle they add to the mix actually is a step backwards.

No, wait a minute, news flash, ebay can't wait until someone buys one of these $25,000,000 lots. Their final value fees will be like hitting the lottery for them.
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Posted 04/18/2019   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have to agree... I would be fine with ebay going back to a listing fee... this stuff is just useless. I note the seller identified by Jim has a grand total of 0 feedback.
All just a scam, which won't work for them in the end anyway.
ebay buyers are stingy... not stupid.
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Posted 04/18/2019   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ebay is heading in the direction of listing only new, retail items; they want to be like Amazon. In any of their recent Annual reports you can find this kind of stuff


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We will persistently reinvent our business...

...We believe that we have some of the lowest prices available for a number of consumer products. In the U.S., the U.K. and Germany, the majority of successfully closed transactions included free shipping during 2015. We have developed a number of features on our Marketplace platforms in the areas of trust and safety (including our Seller Performance Standards, eTRS, ebay Money Back Guarantee, Verified Rights Owner Program and Feedback Forum), customer support and value-added tools and services, as well as loyalty programs (for both buyers and sellers). These features are designed to make users more comfortable buying and selling with unknown partners and completing transactions online or through mobile devices, as well as rewarding our top buyers and sellers for their loyalty...


(From 2016 Annual Report, highlights are mine)

We have to understand that ebay will continue to skew their policies and procedures to limit listings of inexpensive 'used' items. 'Used' items cost more per transaction then new consumer items. It makes no sense for ebay (or anyone else) to support low value 'used' items like stamps under $20 dollars.

And no business has ever sustained itself by standing still and not changing things. Of course you hold on to those things which are profitable, but technology companies HAVE to keep up with the constantly changing world around them. ebay is changing, ebay is trying to be like Amazon.
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Posted 04/18/2019   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...eBay buyers are stingy... not stupid...

Scott,
This generalization is certainly not true. Buyers have been making uneducated purchases since humans started selling to each other.

Specifically regarding ebay, there are thousand and thousands of examples of stamp collectors making stupid buys. You stopped selling on ebay because of stupid crap that goes on, including getting tangled up with PR (British Cartel), a guy who has made a career selling to uneducated buyers.
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Posted 04/18/2019   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, I know what you mean. I have seen auctions sell that you know are overpriced. Common items selling for high prices.
Sometimes you wonder what the buyer is thinking.
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Posted 04/18/2019   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,
I don't disagree with you, but those people are duped by fakery (ala Ryle and the like) They mostly took proofs or other low value material, and altered it to look like a more expensive stamp. Yes, that fools people. This isn't fakery, it's just stupidity. Show me any example on ebay where someone has paid $100+ for a stamp that clearly in catalog CVs for less than $1.
These are all common stamps. No collector is going to buy them. I've had GOOD stamps sitting on ebay in the past with very reasonable amount, and no one bought those. Sorry, but these are blatant, and I haven't seen anyone pay excessive amounts for blatant common stamps. They aren't claiming these are 596's or coils. They are just saying they are old. That's not enough to sell.
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Posted 04/18/2019   1:07 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One reason I'm buying more on Hipstamp/Delcampe these days, and less on ebay, is the absence of these silly listings on those platforms.
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Posted 04/18/2019   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
gmot,
You know, that's a good point. Maybe we shouldn't complain about ebay... it was a "distributor" 20 years ago, it's time they got their ass kicked.
I'd be happy to see them get taken down (even if it's just for stamp category) by more credible and useful sites.
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Posted 04/18/2019   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is hard to tell who some of these buyers are that pay more than they should. Then you have sellers who think stamps have to be valuable. I have seen this in other collectibles. I see a lot of just fishing for people willing to pay a price. I am not even referring to misrepresented material.

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