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Is This Scott 832 A Color Changeling?

 
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Posted 04/22/2019   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add gettinold to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Have a Scott 832 that doesn't match others of the same issue. To the naked eye it resembles the color of the 834. Scanned image shows it to be a lighter shade of the color of the 832 however. Color changelings I've seen in the past sometimes have significant differences with their original state. Is this type of color changeling commonly seen with this issue?



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Posted 04/22/2019   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are some known color variations in this stamp. There is a "red violet" and a more rare "bright magenta". It looks magenta on my screen but I'm not sure.
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Posted 04/22/2019   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
risny

Thanks. Color ID is difficult. Good to know there are variations. I was afraid the stamp might be a changeling and as such damaged.
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Posted 04/22/2019   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is damaged.
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Posted 04/22/2019   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
>>>It is damaged.<<<

Which one is the 'it' that is damaged ?

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Posted 04/22/2019   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is probably the 1954 printing. Below is a scan showing the 1954 printing (block of eight) Scott 832c, the single stamp is Scott 832g and the block of four is Scott 832 (original shade)
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Posted 04/22/2019   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wtcrowe

I see what you're saying. The color does appear to match the block of 8 (832c). That 832g is something else. Looks almost as red as the 834. Nice. Thanks for posting your images. Very helpful.
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Posted 04/22/2019   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
gettingold,
Putting aside the color issues, that stamp IS damaged.
Big crease in the left quarter of the stamp.
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Posted 04/23/2019   12:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ClassicPhilatelist

Damaged by change in color. The crease was visible in the image and I didn't feel the need to point it out as it had nothing to do with my post. I believe that crease was caused after the stamp was soaked off paper and wasn't dried properly.
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
gettinold,
The main point I'm making about damage is, once a stamp has a major fault, it's pretty much "over" for the stamp. Your concern was about damage from the color, which I understand, but the stamp was already a damaged example. So from a "value" perspective, doesn't matter what the major fault is, once it has one, it's still a major fault.
With this stamp, not that big a deal though.
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ClassicPhilatelist

Agree completely. Value wasn't my concern with this stamp. My catalog showed a value of 25 cents. Identification of the stamp was the issue. There are numerous varieties of the stamp. I haven't had the opportunity to see any of the varieties until wtcrowe posted his images for comparison. I wasn't sure if I had a 832 as a color changeling or something else that might fall into one of the other categories. I am comfortable calling this stamp an 832c at this point and will use it for future reference. I understood the point you and rogdcam were making. I would have made it myself but didn't want to stray too far from my question. Thanks for you help on this and all prior posts. Your input is always appreciated.
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Posted 04/23/2019   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Used stamps as a color reference is dicey, you would be better off with mint stamps that have literally not been through the wash.
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Posted 04/23/2019   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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That's my goal. If one ever comes my way I'll retire this one.
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Posted 04/29/2019   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrGG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is a Color Changeling?
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Posted 04/29/2019   12:02 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The attached is a well-known example. The constituency of the ink leading to the colour changing by itself from the intended colour over time (rather than by human interference, fading in sun etc) and distinct from a difference in shade.

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/GREAT-BRITA...AMXQLQJREr58
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