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Posted 04/28/2019   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mr Fancy Pants described it as such so he knew what he had. $482 is a good price?
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Posted 04/28/2019   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
$482 as a price means that it is still the basic price to the PF. Anything under $500.
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Posted 04/28/2019   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 04/28/2019   10:27 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rogdcam - Siegel has one in their census on a 1c which went for much lower but the strike is nowhere near as good. This is the best strike I've seen and I've been collecting pumpkin / jack 'o lantern cancels for many years as I build up an exhibit. The market determined the price and its all good. I knew I was going to win it (my top bid price was several multiples of what it went for)(unless some fellow-psycho did the same thing I did LOL...). Can't have a pumpkin fancy cancel exhibit without one of these on the pages.

Given its provenance, I'm pretty much certain its legit, but I'm going to get a cert for it regardless. Just because.
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Posted 04/28/2019   10:32 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rev - Given that I'm certain the cancel is legit, I'm leaning towards submitting it to the APS for no other reason than to support the society. Good idea? Bad idea?
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Posted 04/28/2019   10:43 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rog - here's one with a PF cert for sale on HipStamp (and look at by who...) just for the sake of comparison:

https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/92...102/11041226
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Posted 04/28/2019   11:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure that one can compare Waterbury's on one cent stamps with those on three cent stamps. I would expect that there are more on three cent stamps since that was the basic rate. Not that ones weren't used, but threes seem much more prevalent.
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Posted 04/28/2019   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Supporting a society always seems like a good idea. If that is what you want to do then I don't think anyone can really argue it.
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Posted 04/28/2019   11:52 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'm not sure that one can compare Waterbury's on one cent stamps with those on three cent stamps. I would expect that there are more on three cent stamps since that was the basic rate. Not that ones weren't used, but threes seem much more prevalent.


I would say you're correct in terms of the proportion used, but with a population of 15 or less in total, I would guess the difference in face value of the stamps would be negligible and the value rests pretty much entirely on the cancellation itself. I wish there was a census with an exact (as much as is possible) number of what this pumpkin was used on.

Edited to add: Then again...maybe not.
http://www.rfrajola.com/jpmcd/63_1.htm
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Posted 04/29/2019   12:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doc - It is lovely. Congratulations and may you enjoy it for a long time.

Cheers
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Posted 04/29/2019   09:55 am  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Rog.

And from our friends at the APS: "We would consider that item "uncatalogued/unpriced" which warrants a $30.00 fee."

That fee also appears on the application form.
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Posted 04/29/2019   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rohloff's rarity factors were made in the 1970's before the internet and before Stamp Auction Network. In reality they are for covers only and not for off cover stamps. I have kept a census of Waterbury covers for 20 years and in many cases the number of covers I have recorded exceed the Rohloff estimates. I knew Paul and I know he did not have an actual listing of known covers. His estimates were based on the number of items he thought that he had seen with an extrapolation. He estimated not more than 5 for the Apple and the Pear and he was correct. I have only found 2 apple covers and one Pear cover. He estimated 5 for the Acorn and I have found 10 different covers.
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Posted 04/30/2019   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matttodd1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PF will charge $27 and PSE $30 to certify that, I believe.
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