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Turkey Duloz Forgery Or Genuine

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Posted 07/04/2019   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add korsbecker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi

Does anybody have an opinion on this stamp?

Kind regards
Korsbecker


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Posted 07/04/2019   08:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sun rays are wrong and printed on a different press than the originals .Looks better quality than my other fakes .
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Posted 07/04/2019   08:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Notice the Rays fill in most of the empty space in the top of the circle and printing is sharper .
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Edited by floortrader - 07/04/2019 08:29 am
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Posted 07/04/2019   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 07/04/2019   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott 13,1865 __Also the pearls are just a bit too big and closer together___
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Edited by perf12 - 07/04/2019 09:22 am
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Posted 07/04/2019   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me.

Forget the stamp - overprint is dead on.

Rays & pearls are notoriously off - very poor printing quality - esp on 25k value...
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Posted 07/04/2019   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi

thans for imput.. regarding rays I dont think they look much different from these that should be a genuine stamp
https://stampforgeries.com/wp-conte..._Genuine.jpg

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Posted 07/04/2019   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi @mdroth

Could you please elaborate om your comment regarding the overprint?

Korsbecker
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Posted 07/04/2019   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not much to elaborate. Sorry for the slang English. It just means the overprint is absolutely genuine in all respects. Compare to the genuine ones on that site. The overprint on your stamp is a bit under-inked - also very common - but other than that, it looks good to me...
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Posted 07/04/2019   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would not exclude the possibiliy that it is perfed proof.The perforations look wrong (vertical side most especialy).The paper looks too white & smooth ?

Perhaps a pic of the back could help...
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Edited by perf12 - 07/04/2019 3:04 pm
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Posted 07/05/2019   05:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting idea Perf.

Do you have any proofs of these stamps? If so, please post!

I know very little about proofs of this series. I know there were essays & trial color essays made. I have not seen any with the overprint.

The paper looks correct to me for a stamp. As for the perfs, well, please show an example from this series with normal looking perfs! While obviously looking weird, the perfs on this stamp do not strike me as out of the ordinary from this series.
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Posted 07/05/2019   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all

Interesting discussion... I have just bought the stamp but havent recieved it yet I'll post a pic of the backside as soon as I get the stamp... Meanwhile there are some more pics of originals and forgeries here:

https://stampforgeries.com/forged-s...urkey-duloz/

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Posted 07/20/2019   02:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Perf12 and mdroth

Here are to pics of the backside of the stamp, one with backlight andone without.

Korsbecker

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Posted 07/20/2019   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks too me like some kind of un-official reprint from the original plate.Perforations and paper look wrong IMO.
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Posted 07/20/2019   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me. Here's mine:
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Posted 07/20/2019   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said before ---It is a fake !!! Here is mine it is a forgery
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