I would agree that the second stamp shown is Scott carmine rose. The green there is also faded slightly including a washed out spot below the value tablet.
I am very disappointed that you didn't look at the link provided and did not make your own determination of the color of either stamp; Swedish Tiger is quite the expert. I would say the first stamp is not in (Scott's) vermilion. You are missing the big picture: the green is faded without question so is not the value tablet color altered as well? Neither color can be trusted in your examples, in other words.
As a faded, off-center stamp with a heavy cancel, I doubt the first stamp is worth even 10% of catalog. The FB lozenge killer has a little merit on its own, but most collectors would only keep the stamp as a reference or space filler until a better one comes along. The second stamp has a stain spot and small creases and is similarly devalued. All the singles and sets on eBay
, etc. that are faded have probably sat and will sit there for ages unless bought by an unknowing newbie who will regret the purchase once they discover they have bought damaged stamps. A hard lesson learned and perhaps a collector lost.