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65B Horizontal Laid Paper, Help Needed

 
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Posted 11/23/2019   4:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi community, I would like some help.

i found this stamp believed to be a 65 b laid paper in a lot I am sorting.

i have done the WM fluid but I found nothing "strange"..but to be honest...not quite sure what to look for on this paper type.

below the front and 2 back photos with side light showing what I think are the lairs.

i would like the opinions of the community as the stamp is not very pretty so sending in for cert is not really an option...

also I was wandering...in SAN it only shows 11 sold used and 3 with other condition, total of 14 sold in auction over the last 10!! years. is it that rare...?? but the price does not seem to reflect, or am I missing something?




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Posted 11/23/2019   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/23/2019   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i did read this, it actually made me aware of the viarity and made me find this.
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Posted 11/23/2019   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dutch,
Any chance at posting a backlit image? I find the those small LED flashlights work well for backlighting.
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Posted 11/23/2019   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
give me 5 don, will do
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Posted 11/23/2019   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here you go don.

besides the verdict, as you know I like to learn.

what are you looking for in this one, and also what should I look for in the WM fluid?



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Posted 11/23/2019   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes soft paper appears to my hobbyist eye to have a geometric-like pattern. Obviously laid paper would only have lines, not the more mesh-like appearance of a simple soft paper. I was hoping to see the laid lines but for whatever reason(s) your backlit images do not seen to reveal the paper construction well. But thanks for trying.
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Posted 11/23/2019   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is ribbed paper, which is evident to the eye but will often not show in fluid. Laid paper would certainly show fairly clearly in fluid. I suggest re-reading the earlier thread about ribbed paper.
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Posted 11/26/2019   5:41 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be nice to get some better images of the stamp, perhaps on a black background and another with oblique lighting shining perpendicular to the ribs of the paper. The images provided have so much light flooding the image that the nature of the paper is almost impossible to see. Since the laid paper 1861's are not really on a true laid paper or even a faux laid paper, looking for "laid lines" is not going to work. Also, calling this a ribbed paper as if it were like the ribbed paper of the Continental bank notes is not really correct either. It may appear to be a ribbed paper of some sort but I can just about guarantee that is where the similarity ends.
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