Old Penny Red Cover From England

Hi! I was wondering if somebody can idenfity which part of England this cancellation "51" is from and what a cover like this would be worth?
Best regards, Dan

Barton on Humber ?
http://www.gbps.org.uk/information/...vincial1.php

Ah, thanks a lot! This site is new to me.

FYI
https://stampsmarter.org/features/B...celView.html

Don

13 Bar "51" in a Diamond Postmark,
is used at the City of London. Circa 1855

Barton on Humber is a Barred 3-1-1-3 Oval, 51 with no Diamond.

I agree, it's a London "Inland Section" head office postmark.

It's a pity the French postmarks are so faint.

The black "ANGL." CDS is probably "ANGL. / AMB. CALAIS" or something similar.

The value of the cover would be nominal. The PD strike in red was applied in France I'd say.

Could you show the letters contents.Paul Desgrand (1799-1878) père & fils was a french industrial. In 1862 70% of silk was imported from London.Desgrand was affiliated with British silk companies in the far east….

Oh really? Very interesting story, had no clue about who the guy was.

Unfortunately my mobile phone is broken at the moment so I cannot take a picture, the picture on the letter itself is the sellers picture.
However it's written in french, and at the bottom of the letter its three sections with numbers, e.g. "20/48", 15/29" and so on. Doesn't seem to be dates or anything like that.

I will get back to this and follow up when I'm able to get a picture or two.

Value would probably not be much if this was an inland cover ... but a usage to France is another matter. There looks to be a red manuscript '4', which was the rate to France 1855-70 -- so paid in cash at the head office, with the 1d stamp being for a late fee (the rule was that late fees had to be paid in stamps to stop the clerk pocketing them!).

Late fee covers of this type aren't great rarities but they aren't common either, and this looks to be a fine clean example. £30-40 retail would be my estimate, so probably about £20 on eBay. (That's based on the stamp being from an ordinary plate.)

Also got this cover. Grossly cut on top, but seems not to have been cancelled and sent away at all, maybe because of the deep cut I don't have a clue. Or maybe someone applied this stamp on another letter seperately, but I got it for £1. Maybe it's worth zero, who knows.

At a guess, addressed, stamped, but never sent. hello

Yes, probably.

How would one grade this kind of stamp. Is it considered mint without gum (if you soak it off), or as used? (despite not being cancelled)

Here, without gum, but uncancelled, it would be called "unused".

Agreed.

Being cut into on one or more sides was almost normal. The sender was separating stamps not thinking of collectable value. I would keep it on cover.