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Russian Stamp Sc#56 Groundwork Inverted?

 
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Posted 12/26/2019   05:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cupram to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I think that my stamp is Sc#56
It is the best I can with my mobil phone:





I made another with my minimicroscope Bresser (the groundwork and the open "b" russiam charactere)




What you think?
It is a groundwork inverted?
The open russian "b" it is a vatiety?
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Posted 12/26/2019   08:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp is from 1902-04 vertically laid paper.No inverted background but it has a slightly shifted background towards the right.Not enough shift to make it worth more.Common occurrence in this stamp.The b break could be a cliché variety,but not certain.
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Posted 12/27/2019   02:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the answer, perf12

I checked the stamp again and noticed that the background image had to be rotated 180 (in the minimicroscope objective the image is rotated)
Can you explain the groundwork recognition methodology?
Thanks.
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Posted 12/27/2019   02:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the correct image

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Posted 12/27/2019   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 12/27/2019   04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you rod222
The background look inverted.The question is: "it's applicabily to my type stamp"? In your image I saw the different design stamp and value 4 and 10k.
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Posted 12/27/2019   05:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's correct?

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Posted 12/27/2019   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cupram,
I do not have a Russian special catalogue, to answer your question.
Others shall need to respond.
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Posted 12/27/2019   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope so
Thank for your aid rod222
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Posted 12/27/2019   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the stamps with the crown above;inverted background means there is a ghost or blank spot at the bottom where the crown should be placed.The stamps were printed in two steps and in the case of colored centers 3 steps.First the background then the center (crown letters and shield).Below a 1902 stamp (same serie as yours) with inverted background:



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The inverted backgrounds everyone mistakes for.These are inverted and have no ghost
white areas because the design is symmetrical.The famous 4K & the more common 10Kbelow:





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Posted 12/27/2019   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, each of these two different designs can exist with inverted background. But the method for detecting the inversion is not the same in each. For the design that cupram submitted, the crown is supposed to be printed on a space in the background that has been left blank for it. If that blank space appears at the bottom of the stamp, the background has been inverted. So cupram's stamp is not inverted background.

The explanation that Rod222 provides is for the other stamp design (the one without a large crown), where the location of dots in the rhombus shapes of the background is determinative.
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Posted 12/27/2019   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much ,perf12.
Very good explanation and logic in the same time.
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Posted 12/27/2019   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, thanks for clarification.
I did have the information, recall failure
https://goscf.com/t/12645&whichpage=2#115487
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