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Pillar Of The Community
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Does anyone know if ISIS or the Hutis issued their own stamps? I don't give a missing perforation whether UPU accepts them or not. I'm interested to know if the postal service kept working in their areas, and whether they used local stamps or printed their own.
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I'd be a bit fearful of doing an online 'ISIS stamp' search...yikes...black SUVs pulling up outside my house now! Don |
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And that was last heard from Don... I wonder what stamps they use in Guantanamo.
I know that the rebels in south Morocco, the "Polisario" or something, issued stamps for collectors to raise money, but I don't think ISIS or the Hutis went that way. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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ISIS in 2014 announced their new currency and postal service which alas failed due to rampant mismanagement (tongue in cheek). Was anything actually mailed? Perhaps. If it was it will no doubt turn up at some point. |
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And on Don's desk, a note was found: "My name is Donymandias, King of Stamps; Look on my collection, ye Mighty, and despair!" |
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Israel
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Reading online I see that Iraqi Kurdistan has issued its own local stamps for a while. Is there any documentation online of those stamps? |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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The Kurdish/Iraqi postal problem: https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/270220184A side story: I was in Iraq from 2005 to 2009 and at one point we were asked to develop a plan to build the Al-Mamoon Central Post Office & Telecommunications Center in Baghdad. It was a State Department whimsy, like many such plans, that never came to fruition. The design was beautiful but the glass curtain walls that were requested were somewhat problematic given the propensity for unannounced explosions. There was also the small detail that there was not then, and not much now to my knowledge, any telephone infrastructure that the telecommunications portion could service. State also wanted elevators and escalators in the complex which was akin to asking for a parrot that poops out gold bars on command. It was a silly project asked for by silly people willing to spend silly money in a deadly serious place. I love Iraq and the Iraqi people. Many are still my friends and some are in the States now. We just should never engage in Nation building. Including Post Offices. |
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Nation building isn't automatically the problem - it is trying to do it without taking into account the wants and needs of the locals and withhout taking into account the realities of the local situation. |
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Rod, do you know if that stamp is included in any catalog? And what was 1912 Kurdistan's status? A recognized entity? I understand that Iraq refused Kurdish mail to be sent abroad, and asked the UPU not to accept them. On the other hand, there are other debatable regions that made it to the catalogs, like Turkish Cyprus that only Turkey recognized. |
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The issue with the 'TRNC' (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus)has had me duped for many years considering that it is not recognised as a state by the UN and its stamps are not recognised by the UPU. I queried Stanley Gibbons about this at a recent Stampex exhibition in London. Their reply was less than satisfactory and perhaps, the people manning the stand, weren't the people to ask either as it was evident that they were clueless on the matter. It is interesting to note though that international mail addressed to the 'TRNC' includes 'Mersin 19, TURKEY' which gets through the loophole of sending in mail to an unrecognised country as effectively mail is being delivered to Turkey. Also, my understanding is that international mail from the 'TRNC' flies out from Turkey but again, this does not explain why their stamps have catalogue status. The TRNC declared UDI in 1982, Rhodesia in 1965, both countries are catalogued despite not being recognised by the UN while both are considered 'commonwealth countries'.....I'm not sure if that is somehow linked but in any event one cannot deny that these states existed/exist and their postage stamps have been widely used and are an integral part of their respective country's postal history |
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