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Has Anyone Used Amos Advantage's 1.5" Binders???

 
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Posted 02/02/2020   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add DJCMHOH to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I house my collections using Lighthouse Vario-F pages. I need to get some new binders but there has been a dramatic increase in the price of the Vario-F Binder-slipcase combos since my last purchase (which admittedly was a couple years ago).

So looking around, I saw this on Scott's Amos Advantage website

https://www.amosadvantage.com/produ...ipcase-black

Was curious of any opinions positive or negative on these. At US$18 each for binder and slipcase, the price is definitely more palatable for me compared to Vario-Fs I have prices elsewhere (cheapest I found was US$27 for Vario binder-slipcase combo). I have all Vario Binders at the moment but I have no qualms about changing binder style if the binders are of a good enough quality.

So any opinions on these would be greatly appreciated

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Posted 02/03/2020   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bugslite to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello

https://www.nordfrim.com/ringbinder...ipcase-black

if you buy 3 of them they are US$19 each.

I have ordered from them twice recently and received in under 2 weeks to Canada.

btw these are 4 o-ring binders.

Best I have seen for the 3 ring version is CAD$27.50

https://www.canadapost.ca/shop/coll...ecution=e1s1


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Posted 02/03/2020   11:36 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't used the Amos binders, but I have tried a four-ring made by Dauwalders here, which looks a little similar. Cheaper than Lighthouse, but significantly lower quality.

You could also try the Vario Gigante line, which would house more pages and give you Arnie-style muscles.
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Posted 02/03/2020   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Going to follow this thread and check out the options- It is also time for me to get a new Binder :)

"You could also try the Vario Gigante line, which would house more pages and give you Arnie-style muscles." too funny.
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Posted 02/03/2020   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StatesmanStamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try a forum search for "Amos binders" and you'll see a couple old threads where this binder/slipcase combo has been mentioned.

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Posted 02/04/2020   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of ideas, but let me be the first to actually comment on the Scott ring binders . .

Yes, they are very good binders. I bought one mainly because it came with a slipcase. I wasn't expecting particularly high quality compared to the Vario-F binders of which I have four or five. But they are very good. They're also different from the Vario F in a few ways that were important to me.

The Lighthouse Vario-F binder is padded, a bit more elegant feeling, which is nice. The Scott binder is not padded. The Scott binder is a little more lightweight, although it's not flimsy or cheap like many binders from office supply stores. It's a good basic 3-ring binder with a good slipcase. You can't go wrong.

The Vario, however, falls down for me in a few respects. It has a very cheap ring system, not sturdy or well attached. They are 3-ring binders (at least the ones sold in the U.S. are) with the ring system mounted on the inside spine. By having them on the inner spine, the pages don't open comfortably. With binders designed this way, when you open the binder, the rings pull at the pages which can damage the holes. With rings mounted on the inside of the back cover, that doesn't happen. Opening the front cover does not tug at the paper at all. Try it, and you'll see. The rings are also circular on Vario-F binders, for some reason, not squared off which makes the pages lie awkwardly when open. A squared off ring leaves pages more even when open. And Vario-F's lack an opening or closing lever. You pry the rings open by grabbing the rings and yanking them open. This seems really out of date and cheap. Even cheaper office supply store binders have opening devices which make them a lot easier to use.

The Scott binders I can't describe since the one I own is not near me at the moment, and they may have some of the same drawbacks. But I remember thinking that, except for not having a padded cover, they seemed at least as good as the much more expensive Vario-F binders which seemed more and more to be all about their padded covers but not much more than that.

I also considered Dauwalders (UK) binders which are available on their website. I did not want European 4-ring binders, though, and they have a lot of them. Their 22-ring binders were appealing, however, and very well made. Fortunately, I own a 22-ring hole punch. And 22 ring blank pages are available from them and other websites. I bought a few of these with blank pages, and I like them very much. They're as good looking as the Vario-F binders but a bit larger. Shipping from the UK is a little expensive, but it's a one or two time purchase, so not a really big deal for me. These binders have padded covers, are very sturdy and quite strong, and at one time I planned to buy a dozen or more for a couple of collections I wanted to mount on blank pages. But eventually I went in a different direction.

After more looking, I finally settled on Prinz Duchy 22-ring binders which are also available with blank pages, Vario style pages and others. They're a little lighter weight which I like, and the pages in them seem to fit the size of the binders a little better than in the larger and heavier Dauwalders binders. They are constructed with easy-to-use rings (with levers to open them). Prinz also has a UK website.

I very much like the look of 22 rings holding album pages. They look more elegant and they allow pages to be turned much more easily than three rings which tend to snag the holes much more easily. 22 ring binders don't do that, at least for me so far. With 3-rings I feel like I'm using a school kid's binder. The rings are very noticeable, and the whole effect is cheap. With 22 rings it just looks much more elegant.

Like Dauwalders, shipping from Prinz isn't cheap but it's not awful, either. The Prinz Duchy binders used to have a cardboard (beige) slipcase available for them (which I bought a few dozen of) very cheaply ($5 each or so), but these seems not to be sold currently although Prinz say they are trying to find a new supplier. Since I want slipcases for all my stamp albums this matters to me, though it may not matter to you.

If I couldn't use the Prinz Duchy 22-ring binders which are my favorites, I'd use the 3-ring Scott binders and just live with that 3-ring look, I suppose. Scott's commitment to 3-ring binders even in their Specialty series albums just absolutely baffles me. I find them unattractive in larger sizes, but that's an entirely different subject I suppose.

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Posted 02/04/2020   02:58 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Circular rings make it easier to turn the pages than the squared rings used in Lighthouse binders with larger capacity. Page turners are worth using on binders where the rings are mounted on the spine - they make opening/closing the binder and turning the pages easier. It's annoying that they aren't included as standard on some expensive, ring-bound albums, eg Yvert.

I've never managed to find a 22-ring hole-punch for sale on ebay.
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Posted 02/04/2020   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Decided to take the plunge, though instead of the 1.5" binders I got the 2.5" version, which only cost US$2 more, and are just a touch bigger than the Varios (which are 2.25") rather than have to deal with binders that are about 1/3 narrower than the Vario Fs.

https://www.amosadvantage.com/produ...inged-binder

The fact they are doing free shipping was also a bonus, though living in Ohio I couldn't escape sales tax (though given the amount of business Amos does, maybe no one in USA would escape with the current tax laws.)
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Posted 02/04/2020   06:23 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those sales taxes look pretty odd to outsiders because they may bear no relationship to the state that benefits from them. On Sunday, I sold some cigarette cards to a chap in California. The sale was, therefore, from a foreign country, via a foreign business platform ( ebay uk), yet £10 in tax collected by ebay miraculously appeared.
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Posted 02/07/2020   05:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I goofed, I really should look closely when ordering

The 1.5" binders came with slipcases, but it turns out that the 2.5" binders do NOT, so now I have 8 binders with no slipcases, which is problematic I really want to have my binders housed in slipcases.

I wonder if Amos would let me return the binders and replace them with order for the 1.5" binders with slipcases.

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Posted 02/07/2020   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well good news called Amos and got a Return Authorization no problem.

Now to think more about binders...
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