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I recently got a cover with this stamp on it. It seems to me this is an unusual color for an S.65. I'll call it Brown Rose. Is this a recognized hue? Or is this just a very oxidized stamp? The cover does not appear faded. Two images, one of the cover, one of the stamp digitally removed i.e., the cover is still intact.  
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| Edited by banknoteguy - 03/05/2020 8:41 pm |
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It could definitely be one of the rarer brown shades. I would definitely send this to the PF for a cert. I might ask the experts here if a gentle swab of peroxide is a good idea for this stamp. Check out Jan Hofmeyr's exhibit to learn a ton about this stamp, including shades. . .the link is to the frame (2 of 8) that discusses shades of his outstanding exhibit. . . https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.n...-Frame-2.pdf |
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That's an incredible exhibit, thanks for posting it Philazilla. Gives me a new appreciation for this issue. As for the stamp in question, I'm certainly no expert, but I think I see a trace of rose or red in the upper scroll work. I'd say heavily oxidized. |
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I saw that exhibit in person and was in awe. . .I normally breeze through the exhibits with an occasional frame catching my eye. I spent more than an hour reading exhibit. And I'm glad I found it online! |
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My eyes/brain are also convincing me of red/rose in the top area, and speckled throughout. I vote for oxidized, though a very sharp impression. |
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Even if it is oxidized, it is an unusual shade. . .if were you, i'd swab it with peroxide to clear up any oxidation. . .but see what others here say. I have not used peroxide on this issue, but I collect stamps dangerously and would go for it. |
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I'm pretty confident that if treated with peroxide it would look much like gazillions of other 65's. Hate to be contrary but... |
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That really was an interesting and super well done exhibit. Thanks for linking that into this thread!
I noted that on pg 32 (16 of this .pdf, are there more pages?) he treats brown shades and has one labelled "Brown" that looks close. It is a very sharp impression probably the best I have (of maybe a hundred or so).
I probably won't use any peroxide. But thanks for the responses.
I am thinking of submitting for a cert.
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| Edited by banknoteguy - 03/06/2020 08:55 am |
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Even more amazing. Who is this person??? That is an incredible amount of work for an exhibit. Where/when was this exhibit? Eight .pdfs of the same size as the first one you linked!
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This stamp is notorious for oxidation/sulphurization, listen to sinclair2010. Don |
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I'm sure sinclair2010 is correct but I wouldn't touch it. Why take an interesting eye catching item and make it mundane? |
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Quote: ... Why take an interesting eye catching item and make it mundane? Hi Ken, Because the OP is being told it is a rare color and is considering spending money on a cert. I agree that I would not mess with it but I also would not spend money on a cert. Don |
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Don I agree 100% I would gladly mount it in my album as a curiosity. I don't collect US but I would stash it away as is just in case I ever collect US again. |
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Quote: Why take an interesting eye catching item and make it mundane? I agree with this. Enjoy what you have as it is. There are occasional cases, this being one, where environmental conditions over time actually make a mundane item more interesting. |
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I have collected (2) Dark brown stamps: one on cover and another off cover with the SF cog cancel. I took a picture of them together and one does look oxidized (its got heavy inking). While at it, I put a 94, 65(brownish red), and 64(certed) to give reference shades. The off-cover brown was sold to me by a dealer for $15 so I didn't think it was rare or valuable. It will be interesting to see what you find out if you have yours expertized. Oh yeah- I really liked the link to the presentation.Thanks for that.  |
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