German Varieties -Flyspecker Group

Hi,
The stamp is Mi 86 issued in 1945, Soviet Occupation Zone, Saxony Province.
The stamp shows 3 plate flaws that I found in the stamp in field 46 (bottom left corner) of plate A (5x10 stamps).
It is not mentioned in the specialized Michel and I need your help if you know of its mention in other catalogues or philatelic works.
Thanks in advance

Hi cupram,

I'm not at home so here are some infos from the net.

Your Plate A is correct. Since it is not my cup of tea. I can not answer positively but all plate A have these features on position 46.

Here a picture of plate A and C. the one in center I do not know. I do not have my book so I do not know if there are more than 3 plates.

The best I found

Hornet

Hi Hornet,
Thanks for confirming field 46 on plate A.
In Michel it mentions 4 plates A, B, C and D.
Field 46 on plate C is plate flaw "I" which also appears in field 26 of plate A (I have the impression that they are a bit different though).
I look forward to further information.

Here are two from French occupation Zone, Baden. They are identified by Dr. Hans Flatters's Franzoesische Zone: Abarten, Plattentypen und Plattenfehler der Laenderausgaben Handbook and Catalog, and they are listed by Michel's Deutschland-Spezial catalog, volume 2. These stamps are from the first (1947) issue.

The 3 pf stamp is Mi 2 PF I, streak in the large sail, field 15, complete printing (CV 4 euros). Second one is the 15 pf value. It is Mi 5 PF II, notch in the lower band, field 15, part of the printing (CV 10 euros).

This one is on the August 29, 1942 Peter Henlein commemorative. It is Michel 819 PF II "large round mark over 'S R' of DEUTSCHES REICH, position 4, part of print run". Looks like a morning glory to me.

Hi,

Here Michel Nr.34 PF I, with four minor flaws thus making it a type 5. This PF appears on position 1 to 10. Main flaw flatted top. In red the four minor flaws of the type 5.

Hornet

Hi
Nice find.
When I see this type of stamp I first check the top or right flattening.
Without success so far.
George

Hi George,

Sometimes the more common PF is hard to find. Hope you will have a wonderful 2022. I started mine with the COVID.

Here another Michel Nr.34 PF I but type 4. In red the minor flaw and the arrow shows no minor flaw that appeared in printing year of 1877. The red circle also appeared in 1877 but earlier.

hornet785, your 20 Pfge stamp is postmarked WENDISCH-SILKOW. In 1900 there were only 217 residents. Now it is in Poland (Zelkowo) (with 280 residents.) So the postmark cannot be too common.

Hi Germania,

You are right, Feuser Pr 3483 K1 whitout stars. I will registered. I think I forgot at the time.

Thank you.

Hornet

Hi Hornet,
I wish you good health.
I haven't tested my immunity with Covid yet.
I couldn't find any reference in Michel about the 20 Pf stamp types.
What does he mean? Different printing plates? Field position in the printing plate?
Thank you

Hi George,

No, not in Michel. They are PF I. This PF comes from the right panel of a 2 X 100 Horizontal pan. When separated, you end up with 2 sheet of 100. A sheet are 2 bloc of 50 (Pos 1-50/51-100) seperated by a gutter, So this PF is from position 1-10 of the right sheet top 50 bloc. Each position gives a type (There are 10 types) Type 10 you will see the right side flatted also and will be Nr.34 IV. Nr.34 IV is Type 10 plus Type 1 of PF III.

Hornet

Hi Sylvain,
In Michel it mentions the 10x5+10x5 sheet.
I didn't understand how there can be for example 33III (Field 98-Left Bogen -9/1).
If there are 2 sheets of 100 then it makes sense.
I still don't know what "9/1" means?
Thank you
George

Hi George,

Which Michel year do you have? Mine is ok with right sheet and 3/1 for PF III Position 20, 30, 40, 50. Position 10 is PF IV (Combination PF I and III). The 3/1 is the number for this PF but in MICHEL-HANDBUCH Katalog "PFENNIGE".

Hornet

Hi Sylvain
Michel specialized 2019.
I asked for Mi#33 and not 34.
But you already answered my question.
At 34III it appears at the end (3/1) which is a number from another catalogue.
I don't understand why the Michel doesn't write an explanatory note for these extra numbers that have no logic.
George