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Posted 01/26/2022   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cupram, here is a link to a discussion on stampsx that may answer your questions. See bottom of the third page of this 8 page thread.

https://www.stampsx.com/forum/topic.php?id=3276&
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Edited by Germania - 01/26/2022 11:51 am
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Posted 01/26/2022   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cupram, I believe the distance referred to is that between the lowest part of the vertical line of the small '1' and the curve of the large '2'. Illustration is from the handbook, with the left figure being the 'normal' stamp.

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Posted 01/26/2022   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Germania and Bookbndrbob.
I didn't think to search on "stampsx".Juergen has many very clear explanations
George
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Posted 01/26/2022   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Exactly and the 1b has the front of the 2 vertical. So the two previous images from bookbndrbob are 1b (141) and 1a (114) respectively.

Hornet
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Posted 02/03/2022   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another modern one ('Bundesrepublik', 1967) I am not completely sure about. This is listed by Schantl as Mi #538 f 8. Description says, ""Notch in right armband, field 8, form number 2, part of the print run." This one is in exactly the right place, but it not as long/severe as the catalog example shows.


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Edited by bookbndrbob - 02/03/2022 6:06 pm
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Posted 02/04/2022   2:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Looks like it. I do not know if this one is progressive and early stage exist.

Hornet
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Posted 02/05/2022   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

Saw this one, so it is the PLF.

Hornet

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Edited by hornet785 - 02/05/2022 07:35 am
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Posted 02/06/2022   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks hornet!

This one is from 1936. It is the 25pf value from the 6th International Communal Congress set of four stamps. Michel lists three plate flaws. This is Mi 620 PF II, "left tower broken (position 31)."


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Posted 02/13/2022   05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp Mi 155 issue of August 1921.
The stamp on the left shows plate flaw PF IV = 3 on the right is lower than the one on the left.
Unfortunately there is a crack on the stamp when the pair is detached from the sheet.



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Posted 02/13/2022   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would have called that the one on the left is higher than the one on the right, since the one on the right seems to align with both number on the other stamp... :)
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Posted 02/14/2022   01:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@billsey- your statement is logical.
I translated the name from cat.Michel.
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Posted 02/14/2022   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
personal opinion on the 3 mark overprint: the 3 on the left is not higher then the 3 on the right. The overprint looks to be slightly tilted. If you put a sheet of paper on top of the M, You will see no noticable difference at all.

As stated, personal opinion.
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Posted 02/14/2022   10:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I rechecked and measured.
At the bottom there is no displacement as it should be.
Hornet 785 explained to me that the 3 on the left and "M" should be on the same horizontal line and the 3 on the right a little lower.
On my stamp it is the other way around.
Probably the 3 on the left was over inked and hence his print slightly shifted up.
Sorry, but it's not plate flaw IV.
Thanks for the corrections.


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Posted 02/14/2022   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a plate flaw on the 10 pf value of the 1906-16 Wurttemberg official overprinted for use in all of Germany (April 1, 1920). Michel lists it as #D53 II, "notch in right upper margin line, approximately 4 mm from corner (position 14)."

This one is NH, but like many of the small Wurttemberg stamps, it has several short perfs... and it has a paper inclusion by the "D".


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Posted 03/09/2022   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Adolf Knop's Die Plattenfehler der Germania-Reichspost-Ausgabe illustrates this PF on the 30 pf Reichspost definitive as #XVII, describing it as "break on the upper part of the right 3". Michel lists it as 59 PF VII.


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