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Posted 12/13/2021   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Check me, please.

The triple folded cover with the Scott 9,7&7, here.
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The far right stamp Scott 7, T relief, type II, I've plated to 6R2.
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Posted 12/13/2021   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
6R2 is correct. Good going.
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Posted 12/13/2021   5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this one not getting any attention in a local auction so it was worth a double saw buck to me.

Back is written 91R2E which I can neither confirm or deny.


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Posted 12/13/2021   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And also picked this one up el cheapo since it was identified as a type IV #9 which it isn't.



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Posted 12/13/2021   6:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallizer - I am jealous!! That is a stunning 10A. You can see the interpane guideline at left and the 'guidedot' on it at bottom, indicating that this is the bottom of the pane. The bottom margin on the stamp simply comfirms that. So, just by those markings, it appears to be pos 91R. The interplane guideline dot is probably unique, plus there appears to be a couple of guidedots (???) under the 'N' of 'CENTS'. The color and impression are, well, impressive!!!

You may want to determine the position of the "#9". I assume you think it is an 8A? It may be. It looks like it may have some facial scrapes at left and at right, but otherwise a decent example. If you paid #9 prices for a #8A, you are probably ahead of the game. There looks to be some "double impression-y" stuff going on in US POSTAGE - maybe that could help plating it.
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Posted 12/13/2021   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks MM. For the 1˘, those are not facial scrapes. I use old approval cards when I scan items and many are beat up badly. It's not an 8A as far as I know and I purchased it believing it's a plate 2 type II, was only $25. I'll try and plate it sometime in the near future
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Posted 12/13/2021   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great acquisitions Stallzer. Very nice impression on the 3c. You can really see the fine detail in the rosettes.
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Posted 12/13/2021   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer, those are two beautiful stamps! Thanks for showing them.

I confirmed the 91R2E plating of your superb 3-cent stamp. The two dots below the N appear to be anomalous. It would be nice if the manuscript town name could be figured out, as these are desired by some collectors.

The 1-cent stamp has a very nice guide dot in the lower-right plume that should be very helpful for plating.
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Posted 12/13/2021   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stallzer --

Late to the party on your 91R2E -- but agree with all of the other comments -- as that is a "one in a million" gem with a proof-like impression -- neat manuscript cancel -- and centerline with the layout dot at the bottom -- they just don't come much better.

Personally, I prefer a neat manuscript cancel like the one on your stamp -- and have never understood why the catalog publishers discount the value by half? I was once told that it is because the manuscript cancels were associated with revenue use versus postal use (not sure if that is true, just saying). That said -- there were plenty of really small towns back in 1851 that did not have cancelling devices and routinely cancelled the stamps in the exact same manner as yours.

I am not the best at deciphering the 1851 manuscript writing -- but the date appears to be Oct 18 -- surely 1851.

Nice find!

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 12/14/2021   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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For the 1˘, those are not facial scrapes. I use old approval cards when I scan items and many are beat up badly.


It is hard to tell sometimes! Glad I was wrong. I THOUGHT there might be something else going on, but went with the easy answer - that it was damaged. Glad it isn't. Nice stamp!
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Posted 12/14/2021   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This block of 14 is on the auction block today at H.R. Harmer. It would make a very nice Christmas present for someone. Edit: Just sold for $1200.

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Posted 12/14/2021   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! That's nice Harper! Thanks for sharing!
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Posted 12/16/2021   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Need help with this one.

So far I have:
- Type II
- B Relief
- lower right guide dot
- incomplete ornaments on left

I've gone through all of the Neinken Plate Drawings for Plates 1 and 2 and not finding anything that matches up. Started on plate 3.

The top of this stamp is interesting. Any thoughts on whats going on? The top left ornaments look way off from the original design. There is also a large dot above the "T" in Postage.

I've been staring at this way to long.
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Posted 12/16/2021   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp has been altered across the left half of the top… and even some to the right of top center as well.

It looks like it may have had a piece added to it or replaced. In any event it is not original. Based on the guide dot at LR it likely started out its life as a Ty II B relief.
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Posted 12/16/2021   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is a type II, but I am far from sure. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.

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