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Posted 03/29/2022   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome aboard Stan! I concur with 88L2, but I would say 2(L).
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Posted 03/29/2022   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stan --

First off -- let me join Harper and Don in extending a hearty welcome to the forum.

As to your stamp with the December 11, 1851, RICHMOND, VA cds -- I agree with Harper that it is, in fact, position 88L2E -- albeit a somewhat unusual example -- a couple of comments:

-- The stamp is seriously over inked (or under wiped) -- which I think distorts some of the plating characteristics a bit -- and is likely the root of your pause on the plating. Compounding the effect of the over-inking -- the paper looks like it might have been a touch too wet as well?

-- The ink in the LRDB is not a GD -- but rather stray inking -- and is consistent with the comment above.

-- The one thing that I find very strange -- as it is contrary to my first comment about the stamp being over-inked -- is the apparent "open corner" at upper right -- as my own copy of 88L2E -- and all of the other reference copies available to me -- show a slight weakening in this area -- but not a full open corner? Still, by process of elimination of all OB stamps that are B reliefs with 2 lines recut in the ULT -- your stamp cannot be anything other than 88L2E.

Again -- welcome to the forum -- and looking forward to further dialogue.

Regards // ioagoa


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Posted 03/29/2022   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock --

It looks like I was typing my initial response to Stan while you posted yours -- but I respectfully have to disagree with you on the state of the plate for Stan's stamp.

The EKU date for plate 2L was January 12, 1852 -- and Stan's cover is dated December 11, 1851 -- so has to be from the Early state of the plate -- plus, I see no signs of re-entry or additional recutting from when plate 2E became plate 2L.

Regards // ioagoa
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Edited by ioagoa - 03/29/2022 5:16 pm
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Posted 03/29/2022   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have fully reconstructed plates of Plate 2 Late of the 1c Franklin


Hi Stan,
I'm going to guess that you meant to say "the 3c Washington" above.

If, however, you've reconstructed plate 2 of the 1c stamp, I would be most interested to hear that.

In any event, it sounds like you have a nice collection, and quite a bit of knowledge of your own to share here.

Welcome.
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Posted 03/29/2022   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oops! My bad!
Plate 1 Late of the 1c Franklin.

I also have Plate 2 Late of the 3c Washington



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Posted 03/29/2022   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very impressive. Thanks for posting that.

We have a lot of 1c plating threads, by plate on this forum.
See the following link below, and click on the "SCF Threads" tab for links.

https://stampsmarter.org/features/S...Plating.html
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Posted 03/29/2022   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to test the waters here for uploading and labeling images. Here is a nice selection of eye candy to share with the group.


89R2E Double Transfer with a probably 2 line precancel. If I recall correctly, the PF declined to comment.


1R2 KISS Double Impression (ex-saadi)


30R2E with a pre printing paper crease (With Amonette description paper)


10R2L Recut Button


6L0 with an Ultramarine Cancel


This is a Plum. It is not certified by any agency, but it was part of the color examples that Dr. Amonette created for William Litle with the PSE. I was informed by Albert Chang that Dr. Amonette had said that this color chart had the finest quality of stamps that he had ever assembled. There is what looks like a hair across the bottom of this scan, but it is a flaw on that portion of my scanner. :(


47L0 - 5 lines recut in the Upper Left Triangle. The only position on the Orange Brown's to exhibit this characteristic. This position also has 1 line recut in the LRDB.


I am sure these have been plated, but I do not see the notes at the moment. Hmmm. Either way, a nice pair with a NY SHIP cancel


Here is a pinkish variety - 91L5L, this is cropped. It has a large selvage to the left, as seen on the next scan.

Position 91L5L is a misplaced relief. Relief A on the bottom row is unusual. This position should have been a B relief. It is also a double transfer. And a pretty strong double transfer at that. Check out the Lower Right corner, in fact, the whole lower text label. it is easily visible in the UR corner as well. Especially from 2-5 o'clock on the UR rosette. This is a position and color that makes me extremely happy. :)


91L5L in Pinkish - with the selvage


Here is mint pair from the three rows of the left pane of plate 3 - Positions 39-40L3 - Certified as Mint, slightly disturbed Original Gum - but I can't see any gum disturbance. It looks Never Hinged to me.


This is just an unused block of 28 from the bottom of the right pane of Plate 5 Late.

I hope you enjoyed that little stroll through a few of my 1c and 3c 1851's. Since this thread is supposed to be a show and tell of these imperforate stamps, this should qualify.

Enjoy!

Stan Shepp
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome specimens you have there Stan. Thanks for sharing them. How long you been at this?
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Off and on for maybe 16 years - more active the last 5.
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stan --

Very nice selection of eye candy -- with many scarce to rare plate varieties and colors to boot -- thanks for sharing these.

I love looking at pretty stamps -- and look forward to seeing more in the future.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stan,
May I add some of your images to the Stamp Smarter Community Plating projects?
https://stampsmarter.org/features/S..._Plates.html
https://stampsmarter.org/features/S..._Plates.html
Don
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bubbachismo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Stan, absolutely beautiful!
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for the compliments on these examples as well as confirming the plating of the original #10A.

51 Studebaker - you are fine sharing my images.

If there is a way to credit them, I would appreciate it.
Not because I need the credit, but because when I share them again,
I don't want people thinking that I lifted them from that site and
claimed them as my own.

As I said, I am working on my own site for sharing my collection.
People get weird sometimes about sharing images that have been shared before
and then trying to say the images were stolen or whatever.
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Edited by stanshepp - 03/29/2022 8:43 pm
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful stuff, Stan!! I am always thrilled when other posters share what they've got. The 'pinkish' with the selvage is world-class!!!

Thank you for sharing.
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Posted 03/29/2022   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don - you shared that link to Plate 0 - Left Pane - And I have that completed.

I do not have images of all of them, but I will find the time to do so - eventually.

Stan
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