Show Your US 1851-57 Imperforate Stamps

stanshepp - You have some really nice 1¢ Franklins in the bunch you've posted. I hope you'll join some of the individual plate threads for that stamp, too.

Don, I'm back after a being out of commission for a couple days. I'm happy to share the load on uploading images to the plating database if it's helpful. Same goes for anyone else who has a suggestion on stamps they feel should be added to the SS databases. Send a message and as long as the plating has been agreed by one of the experts here I'll be happy to help out with the mechanics.

TXSTAMP,

If the Local stamp was placed on the front, it probably would have been cancelled and tied to the cover by the date stamp.

If that were the case, I would not be the owner.

Stan

widglo46,

I would like to, but I have two issues with this forum:
1) Having to shrink all of my images in order to upload them
2) Not having easy mobile access

I will see what I can do though. I have quite a few 1c and 3c that are beautiful examples.

Stan

Let's talk about that. If you already have high confidence in a set of plate numbers, I think we will be able to figure it out. We can go via email and cc a few people maybe... We can help with just getting them in and you could still post some here if you wish. I'm sure we'd all be happy to see them.

(Don't post your email here in the public forum.)

Is this stamp easily plated? Thanks in advance for any assist

https://www.rfrajola.com/NMcovers/686.jpg

Richard - if you can post a high resolution scan of just the stamp we can certainly give it a go here.

Will do a bigger scan in AM.

Hi Richard Frajola --

If possible -- a 1200 dpi scan would be best.

FYI -- I am primarily a plater -- and definitely at the "Sesame Street" level when it comes to postal history -- and probably even worse on how to read the often-cryptic quill pen manuscript of the 19th century -- but to me, the cover looks to have an Oct 28 cds cancel -- and is docketed as received on Nov 5, 1851. Not sure what the Sept 30, 1851 docketing implies -- but seems like a long lag time between Sept 30 and the postmark date of Oct 28?

In any event, can you confirm that I am interpreting the docketing correctly as to the 1851 year date (i.e., NOT 1857)? If so, the stamp has to be from one of the OB plates -- or possibly plate 1 Late -- which is the only "dull red" plate with an EKU date that fits the timeframe of the docketing (i.e., if, in fact, the docketing is 1851 ?).

Like Caper said in his prior post -- if you post a high resolution scan -- I am confident that we will be able to plate the stamp for you.

Regards // ioagoa

1200 dpi scan

https://www.rfrajola.com/NMcovers/686a.jpg

It is an september 30, 1851 cover from Fort Union, New Mexico Territory that was carried outside the contract mails and entered the regular US mails in St Louis.

Hi Richard --

I plated your stamp to position 58R1 -- but unfortunately, this is one of those patients where I would need to have the stamp in hand to determine if the state of the plate is Early or Intermediate.

So for now, based on the scan, while I am confident that the stamp is either position 58R1 Early or Inter -- I will need to decline opinion as to nailing down the state of the plate.

If nailing down the state of the plate is important to you -- I would be happy to examine the stamp in the flesh. If that is something you would want to do -- please send me a PM and we can go from there.

As an aside -- in case your link is deactivated at some point in the future -- I am also attaching a marked reference scan of your stamp so that we have a record here on SCF -- albeit a reduced file size to comply with the SCF limitations.

Regards // ioagoa

Richard Frajola - I love that cover!!

Let me know when and where it gets sold!

I have 4 unplated examples today - I was planning to plate them today and figured that I would upload them here first. I have to go to a meeting at my child's school and will look closer at these when I get back. As they are plated, I will edit the descriptions to show that positions. In the mean time, enjoy. They are beautiful additions to my collection. I am sure you will like them as well.

Stan

All with certs. All graded. (85, 90, 95, 98) Three #10A's and a #11.


10A - Graded 85, plated as 22L5E. I love the TAUNTON Integral 3cts Cancels.


Cert #10A - Graded 90 - unplated - This looks like 68R5E to me, but again, the Chase and Lund examples are less than adequate to be 100% certain. I am open to the thoughts and opinions of others.


Cert #10A - Graded 95 - 88L5E - in part based on the single line
recut in the lower right triangle on the stamp to the left.
Chase's image and Lund's image on the stampplating.com website are
not as helpful on this position as I would like.
If it was agreed upon that this is the correct plating, it would
be nice to see this example available for others to plate against.


Cert #11 - Graded 98 - unplated.

Thanks ...

It is a front only. It is on my website under sales.

Stan, that is another group of beauties!!! The Taunton cds is always a favorite - it seems to always come out clear and, it appears, the postmaster always had good aim resulting in a fairly complete strike considering the size of the stamp. (EYA: Perhaps the beauty in it isn't that it is a 'complete' cancel, but because the aim is good, it is a bullseye cancel often.) You appear to be quite adept at plating - that is clear. On the Taunton stamp, the left inner line and the left frameline appear to have an interesting relationship - not parallel throughout. Might I suggest trying to ID the position based (largely) on that? There have been tons of posts in this long thread about comparing images with vertical compression - digitally 'squashing' each stamp to, say, 20% of original height. This causes the 'wanderings' of the side frame= and inner-lines to stand out. When compressed, the lines bend and jog, obviously, and the degree of bend and location of the meanderings are much more clear. Some posters here already have databases of already-compressed images, just waiting for comparison. Anyway, if you have been reading this thread from the start, you are already aware of this 'trick' and who those are that you can work with.

Heck, maybe this compression trick will help with the others shown here, too. The others' inner and outer lines don't appear to be as 'wandery' as the first example, though. Sometimes the compression trick brings out details that aren't apparent at full size.

Your 2nd stamp of the group, the one with the red grid, is also a beauty. To me, there is something striking about a neat cancel of (nearly) the same color of the stamp. I love a neat cancel that contrasts with the stamp, but I also can appreciate a lack of contrast. This example, especially!