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Posted 10/19/2022   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! GeoffHa, I was looking at that for a LOOOONG time and simply couldn't figure it out. It looks like you got it, though!!
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Posted 10/25/2022   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 40yearBreak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stanshepp - Take this for what it is worth ... I am still a rookie at plating, but I checked that 2L8 you identified and that looks like a solid match to me.
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Posted 10/30/2022   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Presenting a pretty grungy 3 cent imperf. My guess is plate 5L and there appears to be a ghost dot UR.


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Posted 10/30/2022   2:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a #9, 3R1L (I think)

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Posted 10/30/2022   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
moyock, how did you arrive at 3R1L as the plate position? Not arguing necessarily, but seemingly all the identifying marks for this position are obscured or cut away on this copy. To my eye anyway, the bottom frame line under the N of ONE does not look recut.
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Posted 10/30/2022   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty much an amateur at plating 1 cent imperfs.

My reasoning is this, to me the bottom frame line looked recut and doubled. Since there are only a few positions where the lower frame line is doubled on plate 1L that's where I focused. As well, the stamp looked under inked or blotchy. A lot of the identifying marks may not have transfered. There were some darker marks in the lower left scroll area that seemed to match.

I appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
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Posted 10/30/2022   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock13 --

I believe that your "grungy 3c imperf" with the black AUG 5 (?) Philly CDS cancel is position 35R2L -- and the dot you are seeing is not a ghost dot -- but rather the GD from the adjoining 25R2L above.

Check it out and see what you think.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 10/31/2022   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa, I concur. Thank you. Appreciate your assistance. Another feature that threw me off, there is a small splash of color on the right side of the lower right rosette, between the inner and outer frame lines. Seemed a little odd to me that I couldn't find reference to support the splash. Curious if this shows up on any other copy of this stamp?

Thanks again, ioagoa.
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Posted 10/31/2022   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock13 --


Quote:
Another feature that threw me off, there is a small splash of color on the right side of the lower right rosette, between the inner and outer frame lines. Seemed a little odd to me that I couldn't find reference to support the splash. Curious if this shows up on any other copy of this stamp?


Here are 2 examples of 35R2L -- and neither shows the "splash of color" that you asked about. I also checked the Chase, Lund and the StampSmarter copies -- and no "splash of color" on any of those either -- so I think what you are seeing has to be a bit of stray inking -- or perhaps it is not stamp ink, but part of the "grunginess" as you called it (??). Regardless -- by process of elimination, your stamp cannot be anything other than 35R2L

Regards // ioagoa



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Posted 10/31/2022   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Since there are only a few positions where the lower frame line is doubled on plate 1L that's where I focused.


moyock, I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you are referring to the portion of the frame line circled in the attached, that is the normal appearance of the bottom frame line. It is not really doubled (in the sense of showing traces of more than one attempt at entering the relief).


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Posted 11/01/2022   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dudley, thanks. Appreciate everyones patience.
So, I have this piece of paper on my desk. And drawn on the paper is a big circle with a big "X" in the center. Underneath the circle is written, "Bang Head Here!"
I use that quite frequently when attempting to plate 1c and 3c stamps. =)
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Posted 11/04/2022   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am having trouble with this one. I am leaning towards 25R1i.

Anyone care to opine?

Stan Shepp

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Posted 11/04/2022   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a 45L3?

It isn't a big deal to have plated. I added it to the collection for the manuscript PAID cancel, and not for plating.

Stan Shepp

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Posted 11/05/2022   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stan, looks like someone with a boring job and time on their hands processed that item!

Also, I believe 25R1i is the correct plating for your stamp above.
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Edited by Caper123 - 11/05/2022 09:24 am
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Posted 11/05/2022   10:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper123, Thanks!

I imagine that this stamp was used when the local news came from the postmaster.
He knew who was sick, who was out of town, who had a sister visiting, etc.

I imagine there were stories told over the post office counter -
and when I see doodling on covers, I just imagine the postmaster telling
(or listening) to a story from a customer while he doodles.
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