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Posted 09/09/2024   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Stan,

I haven't been able to see the crack that Chase described on any 65L5L reference copy I looked at, either. Below is a very clearly-printed 65L5L from my collection.

Regarding your stamp on cover plated as 65L5L, as you suggested, I suspect that line near the button is a foreign object like a hair or wood fiber.

Also, the stamp in your image doesn't appear to me to be from position 65L5L. The inner lines on your stamp look too heavy for this position, especially along the top quarter of the right inner line. Also, the top frame line on 65L5L shows a split at the right end, which I don't see in your stamp image.

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Posted 09/10/2024   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I previously posted what turned out to be #11 and #11A.

Here's my #9, #14, and #17.



Update: Corrected 2nd stamp as #14.
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Edited by NicholasC - 09/10/2024 10:46 pm
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Posted 09/10/2024   10:10 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually 9, 14, and 17.
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Posted 09/10/2024   10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm. I agree after further inspection in much different lighting and a blown up image on a better monitor. Looks like the lines at the top, certainly over the left X, are complete. The stamp was mis-identified, but since values are similar and I didn't have a #14, I'm not gonna complain. Another lesson learned.

Thank you, sinclair2010.
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Edited by NicholasC - 09/10/2024 11:00 pm
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Posted 09/17/2024   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I enjoy the early 1852 printings. Often the impression is sharp and the different versions of colors can be great also.
Shame that this one is trimmed at right. Nice impression and I think it falls into a Paler Brownish Carmine shade.
It stands out nicely against the grayish blue paper of the folded letter.

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Edited by stampcrow - 09/17/2024 3:43 pm
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Posted 09/20/2024   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice cover and stamp, stampcrow. I really like the handwriting. Thanks for showing it.
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Posted 09/21/2024   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CC, this wonderful thread you started is at 210 pages!!! I
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Posted 09/21/2024   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oiman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Among the acquisitions from the first purchase I've made, I got this Franklin 1c stamp with a really large offset horizontal cut. I can't tell 100% since the bottom margins are missing, but I think it is a Scott 7. That offset really attracted my attention, along with the fact it was accepted as mail at some point with a SEP 8 (or 3 if not 8) very lightly stamped.

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Posted 09/22/2024   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unplated #98 in my collection. (Yes, that would mean I have 97 more unplated!) Top of the upper right diamond block is obscured just enough so as I can't tell if it's been recut. Though the bottom of the URDB looks to be gouged. May be plate 1L?

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Posted 09/22/2024   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Moyock13, that guide dot should might be the best clue.
Nice stamp
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Posted 09/22/2024   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oiman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the same mentioned purchase was this Scott 10. I attempted to plate the Scott 10, and if I understand it correctly I believe it is 4R1E with the upper guide dot in the top right and no recut vertical lines as seen on 10a.


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Posted 09/22/2024   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daz24 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oiman,

It is large part of 88R4, listed as a Scott 8A.
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Posted 09/23/2024   12:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock --

Your stamp with the black JUN 19 cds cancel is position 47L3.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 09/23/2024   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oiman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@daz24 that would be quite interesting and cool that a relatively rarer Franklin was obtained by me. I checked out another example of that plate position but I am not quite seeing the details you noticed like in this example here in the Franklin Archive. I will see if I can notice them after another round of looking.

http://www.slingshotvenus.com/Frank...Pos88R4.html
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Posted 09/23/2024   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Oiman --

The scan quality of your #10 with the partially struck bluish-black circular grid cancel is not really suitable for plating -- but in this case it shows enough detail such that by process of elimination I agree with your plating as 4R1E -- logic is as follows:

-- As you noted, neither inner line has been recut -- and there is a GD at UR -- which makes it a 99.9% probable top row copy -- although it is remotely possible that the GD is an accidental dot (more on that below).

-- The stamp is a definite B relief -- (i.e., despite the scan quality -- there is a clear B-hump at bottom and classic "B" break in the oval at top).

-- Using the plating wizard tool on StampPlating -- there are only 15 stamps out of 2,600 possible positions that meet the combination of the 3 characteristics noted above (i.e., B relief, inner lines not recut, and GD at UR). 13 are top row #10's -- and 2 are #11's with accidental dots at UR.

-- Of the 15 possibilities -- the one and only position with a GD situated the same as your patient stamp is 4R1E.

Regards // ioagoa
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