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Posted 06/20/2020   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a stamp with a wonderful impression.
It's one of those stamps that have no obvious recuts that would help plate it. The lack of plate wear makes it hard to tell if the upper label and diamond block is recut.
At first blush I think this is a plate 3 stamp. The nicely recut frame lines and lack of obvious upper label recutting leads me there.
Sorry I cut off the top of the stamp in the first pic.
Note:my camera doesn't reproduce colors accurately. This stamp is more of a claret.



Here's a scan of the same stamp. My scanner is horrible for showing detal but gets the color closer. Still not accurate though.
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Posted 06/20/2020   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampcrow --

I believe that your stamp is most likely from plate 1L as the URDB looks to be gouged.

The TFL is very distinctive in relation to the top label bock -- more specifically, it is high above the U.S. and unusually low above above the AG of U.S. POSTAGE.

Another feature is that the BFL extends a trifle beyond its intersection with the RFL.

Stamp is an A relief.

If I have time later today or tomorrow, and only if you want me to, I will try to plate the stamp for you -- otherwise, I would start my hunt on plate 1L with the features noted above -- and then, for any potential candidates you might find, look closer at all of the the other plating characteristics before firming up your opinion as to plate position.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 06/20/2020   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa, thanks. I went through plate 3 yesterday using the BFL extending and relief A as my only clues. Obviously I couldn't find a match.

Hold off trying to plate it. I will take a run through plate 1L tonight and post findings here.
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Posted 06/20/2020   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stampcrow --

Understood -- although admittedly I have already plated your stamp -- so once you land on a position I will be able to give you a quick confirmation.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 06/20/2020   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've landed on 72L1L. Top frame line being my best indicator.
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Posted 06/20/2020   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stampcrow —

YES — 72L1L — great work.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 06/20/2020   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the redirect to 1L.
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Posted 06/21/2020   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #11A, Relief B, on a U6 stamped cover. I've given it a shot and am 95% confident that it plates to 68R3.
Guide dot LR
TFL narrows over "POS"
LFL Widens under "C"


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Posted 06/21/2020   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add banknoteguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Looks correct to me. Nice.
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Posted 06/21/2020   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's #11A position 19L2L. This is Variety #30 – Line Ties Top of Upper Label to Upper Right Diamond Block & Extends to Frame Line. It also shows a double transfer of the tessellated work along the right side. The double transfer is also visible in the NT of CENTS.

These images were acquired with a DSLR camera:


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Posted 06/21/2020   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some nice clear pictures Classic. Easy to see the DT.

Thanks for sharing.
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Posted 06/21/2020   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add banknoteguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Nice work. What kind of camera? What kind of lens/settings? Are you using built-in flash or something else?
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Posted 06/21/2020   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Moyock13 and banknoteguy.

I took the 19L2L photos with a tripod-mounted Canon T3i with a 60 mm macro lens at ISO 200, 1/20 sec, f/8, with a remote shutter release, and no flash. The lighting was indirect sunlight with no artificial lighting.
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Posted 06/21/2020   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Trying to (unsuccessfully) plate this imperf I noticed that the "HRE" of THREE are connected and there seems to be a scratch in the first "E".

I looked in the Chase book but didn't see any reference to the "HRE" letters being connected. Nor did I see anything pertaining to this little scratch.

I also looked at other 3 cents stamps and noticed that "HRE" running together is not uncommon. Just curious if either are significant?



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Posted 06/21/2020   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gary, If I remember correctly your 19L2L was referred to by Wiston as a veritable one in a million!! Love that stamp.
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