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Posted 12/17/2020   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I curious about the Q recut. You say it is listed as a recut inner line. Is that really the case, or is the outer line so funk-a-licious that it is MISTAKEN for an inner line?? More curves on that line than a dog's rear leg!!! Very clear impression, which makes it VERY collectible!!! Thank you for showing us.

PS: That imprint reconstruction really is stunning! I am jealous.
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Posted 12/18/2020   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Sinclair --

That is a beautiful copy of the 'Q recut' -- very much appreciate your showing it!


Mootermutt987 --

Regarding additional information about the 'Q recut' -- this is the position that Bob Hegland plated as 4R'S' -- all as explained in his USPCS Chronicle article (reference USPCS Chronicle published November 1992, Volume 44, No. 4, Whole Number 156 -- pp 247-249).

In Bob's article, he corrected Chase's plate position of the "Q recut" from 3R'U' to 4R'S'.

Attached is a scan of the 4R'S' cropped from the top row strip of 4 that Bob used in the article (FYI -- I don't own this strip).

Regarding the plate designation, this position came from one of the "alpha" plates, where Chase used letters as place holders until he figured out the plate number. These plates generally wore out quickly.

The alpha plates are 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, and 22. Chase used (in no particular order) P, R, S, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z. Some of them have been figured out, but not all.

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Posted 07/09/2022   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello all. I'm seeking confirmation on my plating of this perforated variety of the 3c. I feel confident that it is not from Plates 4, 6 ,or 8. So I have arrived at 17L7.

It seems to match up well with Chase and Lund examples for 17L7. Interestingly it also matches very well with Lund 12L7 but not with Chase 12L7. Suspect the Lund copy may be another 17L7 in the wrong position.

Key features of this stamp are upper left frame line that is in close to design and the variation in upper frame line. It dips in close above the ".S.PO"a and widens out over the "STAGE" before it dips back in over the UPDB.

As always, your input and analysis is greatly appreciated.

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Posted 07/09/2022   11:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Harper --

I have not had an opportunity yet to look at your tentative 17L7 Scott #25 -- but will try to get to it over the next couple of days (unless of course another plater weighs in sooner).

In the meantime, I can confirm that you are 100% correct in your assessment that the stamp currently slotted as 12L7 (NOT) on stampplating.com is actually position 17L7. Great plating work on this!!

The owner of stampplating.com was previously made aware of this particular error of plating -- and I know for a fact that he has procured a replacement -- but has yet to update the website.

Again, I should be able to look at your tentative 17L7 over the next few days and provide confirmation and/or commentary as applicable.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 07/11/2022   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Harper --

I agree that your Scott #25 plates to position 17L7.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 07/11/2022   10:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for confirming Ioagoa.
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Posted 07/11/2022   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a variety where a dot under the ear is such that it is consistent in the plates? Or is this a printing anomaly?

If anyone would like to offer plating information it would be appreciated.
TIA
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Edited by Chipshot - 07/11/2022 6:22 pm
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Posted 07/12/2022   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chipshot, We would need an image with higher resolution to be able to plate it properly and to assess the spot of color under the ear.

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Posted 07/13/2022   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will scan it at 1200 and see if I am able to post it here. Thanks Harper1249
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Posted 07/13/2022   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
so now I have the scan and it appears that I had a small piece of debris in the scan under the film that was holding the stamp and here is the new scan at higher resolution..............



No doubt my image managing was lacking and I do appreciate the input from all of the contributors on this thread.
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Posted 07/13/2022   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chipshot. Both images you have uploaded are at 75 dpi. The second is one larger (838x1029) than the first (515x645) but with the same resolution. Check your scanner settings or look at how you are downsizing it to get it uploaded onto the site. Or, send me a message and you can email the larger version and I can upload it. I'm guessing this stamp is coming from plates 6, 7 or 8. To accurately plate the positions on these plates one definitely needs a higher resolution image to look at.

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Posted 07/14/2022   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



I hope that this is an improvement over my prior posts. I used the image optimizer and did not change the quality setting to get the file down to 206. KB. The earlier try I had it at 267 but it would not allow it for the file size. Thanks for your coaching me and should you wish the actual scan please send me an email that I might send you the larger file.
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Posted 07/14/2022   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am also always available to assist with large image files if desired. You can message me via the SCF system or email using the Stamp Smarter website 'Connect' page https://stampsmarter.org/connect/Home_Connect.html
You can send me any size file and I upload it for you and send you back the SCF image link for you to put it in your post.
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Posted 07/15/2022   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With assistance here is a better image, Thanks Don



I am thinking there is a plate crack through the rt top rosette and confirmation would be appreciated.
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Posted 07/15/2022   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any Chipshot. Can you highlight the area you believe to be a crack?
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