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I am aware of and use the Doporto site and the plating site on Stampsmarter. My plating strategy is to determine type and likely plate, look for potential plating marks on the stamp, and search Neinken for stamps from that relief that have those plating marks. I then check the position on Doporto. Most of the time I'm able to plate the stamp that way. The one I posted is proving difficult. I think I must be missing something on this stamp. |
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 A cover franked with a 3c #26, that was picked up as a Way letter carried by the Pony Express from a location that was under 3000 miles from the east coast; thus the 3c US postage as opposed to 10c for over 3000 miles. Richard Frajola's certificate which accompanies - Quote:
In my opinion it is a genuine use carried by the Pony Express. It was carried on the eastbound trip that departed San Francisco on November 10, 1860 and arrived at St Joseph on November 23. The cover was apparently picked up some place en route between California and Missouri and the US postage was either unpaid, or paid in cash by the sender. It bears a pencil "1/4" endorsement underneath the stamp indicating that the pony express fees for a letter to one-quarter ounce were prepaid by the sender. The letter was received at the Pony Express office in St Joseph on November 23, 1860 and, after putting their datestamp on the cover, they applied the 3c stamp. The cover then entered the mails at St Joseph where it received their dark greenish black datestamp and the stamp was cancelled with matching grid cancel.
This is an unusual example of where the US postage was not applied by the sender. Ex Kramer I like covers that fit in multiple collections that I have. This can go in an 1857-61 issue general postal history collection, a way letter collection, a study of the Central Overland California & Pikes Peak Express Company, or a general Western collection, to name a few. Needless to say, I was happy to get this. |
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Hi TX - glad to see you got that cover. I was watching the Rarities sale and almost threw in a bid on that cover since it was selling so cheap |
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My plating strategy is to determine type and likely plate, look for potential plating marks on the stamp, and search Neinken for stamps from that relief that have those plating marks. I then check the position on Doporto. Good strategy, Navyvet. FWIW, your stamp impresses me as Plate 10 (vertical streaks in right margin). |
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Hi TX - glad to see you got that cover. I was watching the Rarities sale and almost threw in a bid on that cover since it was selling so cheap Thanks. I think it was one of the steals of the sale, and as I mentioned, it really fits with a lot of different branches of my postal history collection(s), so I was pretty happy. Rumsey sold it for 3-4 times as much in 2012. |
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I'm sorry for the poor quality images. I hope they're good enough to show how 'busy' the left frame line is. I did some searching and reading of articles on the USPCS site using the Chronicle Search. This bit of research leads me to think this could be a stamp from plate 15. But as some of you know the only thing shabbier than my images is my research abilities. Any thoughts or guidance on this stamp or Plate 15 stamps in general.   |
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I would say your research is not that bad. I agree that it is probably a Plate 15 stamp. It is also a bottom row stamp. Look up the article on frame line slips and you may find a match. |
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Yes, I think the Robert Hegland article on frame line slips will get you an answer. Hint hint. |
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Winston thank you for replying and the giant bread crumb trail.
99R15, Dr. Chase refers to it as the triple frame line?
The Robert Hoagland article even has an illustration. I skimmed past it before thinking the stamps illustrated were from Plate 10 and 11.
For my eyes it's the upper portion of the outer most frame line that is the tell. That seems a unique recut position for the top of a frame line. I'm hoping that's the one. |
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Can anyone help me ID this one? Sc 24, Type V ??? I haven't a clue but seems to be maybe the only one with the ornaments missing so much? BUT, not sure if there's too much missing to tell. Other signs appreciated by the experts. Wm.  |
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You are correct, it is a #24, Ty V.
I was going to point you to some good articles on 1c ID on the stampsmarter website, but it seems to be down at the moment, or at least I cannot get to it. |
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You are correct, it is a #24, Ty V.
I was going to point you to some good articles on 1c ID on the stampsmarter website, but it seems to be down at the moment, or at least I cannot get to it. Thanks much! I remember seeing some Types help on stampsmarter too. But as of yesterday was unable to find any info on types identification. But, I for some reason always have a tough time searching on that site. Not sure why….. |
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59R7 with the shoulder curl, I should think. Away from desk so no catalog to look in…. Plate 59, right pane, 7 from top left?? |
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