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Thurn And Taxis Authentication Help Other German States

 
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Posted 06/24/2020   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Chipshot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Posting some stamps here for discussion and your consideration. I got these in the 60's and have every reason to believe they are authentic. Any confirmation or condemnation would be appreciated!
Thank you! I will start with just this one,



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Posted 06/24/2020   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
what is on the other side? If it is a reprint, there should be mark.
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Posted 06/24/2020   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp ,that is a premium shade.
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Posted 06/25/2020   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the advice and I will share some additional images starting with the back of the stamp posted and then the page it is mounted on which has a number of this group.


I will post more of the individual images in time. Thanks




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Posted 06/25/2020   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the 5 SG is very nice. So is it a reprint? Looking forward to seeing more images.
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It is not a reprint. The reprints have ND on the back in a florid font. Also, the 5sg was not one of the reprinted stamps.

In general, TnT forgeries are not as common as those of, say, Oldenburg or Hamburg. Forged postmarks, on the other hand, are a problem as several TnT stamps are cheap is unused but very, very expensive if postmarked.
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Posted 06/25/2020   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good to know. Thanks, Greaden. What's a good way to determine whether TnT postmark is fake?
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Greaden, thanks for your comment and the information. The stamps do seem to carry a high value as used. TnT as you say are new and look to have gum. The North German Postal District on the other hand do appear to be used with 2 exceptions and I can not find them in the Scott's Catalog. There seem to be some on ebay, might they have any significant value?
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Posted 06/25/2020   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For TnT, I am suspicious of any cancellation on the 5 and 10sgr, and 15 and 30kr issues from 1859, and any from the last, 1866 issue.

In 1866, TnT printed a lot of new stamps using improved printing technology. In 1867, following the Austro-Prussian war, Prussia took over the TnT postal services, and all the extra stamps went to collectors. They had a very short period of use.

One of the forgers, Fournier, used these numeral postmarks: 6,34,95,142,195.

The font used is sometimes a clue, but I am a long ways from learning reliable ways to be confident in a postmark, aside from avoiding the ones I just discussed.
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Posted 06/25/2020   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again. I'll check mine soon (despite the inherent danger!) and post any that seem doubtful.
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Posted 06/25/2020   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did find the others after Wurttemberg, nothing real valuable by the way it looks.
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Posted 06/25/2020   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of my THURN and TAXIS

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Posted 06/25/2020   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seems likely the ones with special values are suspect. They came from a great source but with out someone to expertise them you just need to be careful. I have these and others that I have done nothing with for over 50 years and am thinking I should offer the group hare for a resonable offer and split the proceeds with the forum. Any interest? Let me know, I will put up more in time..
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Posted 06/26/2020   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you floortrader for posting those fine examples of the stamps that you have.
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