Particularly Nice Collection Coming Up For Auction This Monday

Wait a minute ------There was a stamp auction lot at a small auction firm in Great Britain a few years ago and there was 2 or 3 stamp dealers bidding on a lot of Chinese Dragons . The winner later reconsign the lot to ROGERS at Kelleher . It was taken to Hong Kong and realised 10X what he paid for it in England .......you got to look at history before you make up your mind .

I was forgetting the different rules in Scotland, so I assume you could view the lot, if you fancied a scenic drive!

Agreed. The better items in a manufactured collection are usually faultly.

I've been thinking about my post from yesterday stating my belief that manufactured collections are created by the auction houses. Eyeonwall mentioned knowing some dealers who make up such collections for auction. I now realize it is much more likely that dealers make up these lots and not the auction houses.

At this point, the majority of all collections have been recycled multiple times. And it could be said that all collections are 'manufactured'. I poked fun at rogdcam for mentioning 'assembling' some stuff he was then selling but the truth is that a significant amount of people do this; auction houses, dealers, collectors, and even non-hobbyists. In my opinion I would say that auction houses and dealers have more incentive (they want return customers) to leave at least some better material in each lot then the picked over material that most hobbyists offer for sale (who are not really seeking return customers).
Don

" And it could be said that all collections are 'manufactured'"

But a collector's collection was put together with a certain set of tastes and standards[edited to add although it can contain bad material, it is not meant to deceive]. A collection manufactured by a dealer is put together to hide faulty/altered/forged/misidentified material or poorly centered material [edited to add or heavily cancelled material - i.e. stuff that they have been unable to move by itself] in with ok material. Then a huge catalog value is quoted.

"In my opinion I would say that auction houses and dealers have more incentive (they want return customers) to leave at least some better material in each lot then the picked over material that most hobbyists offer for sale (who are not really seeking return customers)."

True

I don't see anything odd about the album.It looks like it was collected decades ago.The GB section is well furnished but nothing unusual if the collector just consetrated on that more than the rest.
The other pages of colonies and the world are ordinary:ok, there are mint stamps. Ceylon ,Cape of Good Hope triangles not much there...

Excellent point. The auctioneer did know which buttons to push. Also, the "word of mouth" advertising through the chat boards has been quite affective in drumming up interest. I am always curious about the genesis of the "word".

It was me who called up Audrey, the auctioneer and had him check the £5 watermark. He posted the result on the listing soon afterwards. One more thing it was the daughter of a deceased collector who submitted this to the auction house.

Perhaps it is all good. Lucky for the Daughter that the word got out that this collection was at a non-philatelic auction house otherwise she may have been on the losing end.

That's even odder. The house has lotted a number of imdividual stamps and short sets - i.e. it isn't clueless. But it listed an album with, inter alia, a £5 orange, didn't draw attention to the fact and gave the lot an estimate of a hundred quid. This is still fishy - the question is whence the piscine smell emanates.

Maybe not. It could be that a dealer submitted the individual sets, and that the auctioneers are still clueless.

A dealer would not submit stamps to a non-stamp specialist auction house.

The plot thickens.....

£4,200 now

Sold for £8,500 + 24% commission + VAT