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Württemberg 1890 Scott 59 And 59A

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Posted 12/23/2020   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cupram to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Two shades of green and blue green (Mi # 56a and Mi # 56b)
I need a catalog value evaluation for MNH (Scott 2009-250$ and Michel 2019-750Euro) What is the value of Scott's recent catalog?
How much (%?) does the value affect due to the few shorter teeth and the cracked gum?
Thanks for any help.




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Posted 12/23/2020   04:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They both look green to me, perhaps my monitor.
"Pulled perfs" I believe is philatelic verbiage.

What is the dot in the top frame (left) and rabbit ears?
Great scans by the way.
The left, you may wish to also indicate a crease.
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Posted 12/23/2020   05:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod222,
I am not an English speaker (I use google translate and I hope you understand me)
The images were taken in sunlight.
The stamp on the right interests me for evaluating the value.
I think these are more successful.

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Posted 12/23/2020   06:31 am  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott 2021 gives a value of $300 mint hinged for blue green shade (Sc 59a). Would be higher for MNH, even given the cracked gum. Delcampe has a couple of expertised mint Mi 56b listed for sale you could check.
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Posted 12/23/2020   06:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cupram, can you do the following? Place one stamp covering about half of the other, then take a photograph with the best white light you have (an LED light is good). This will help us to see if there is any difference between the two stamps.

Our eyes are not very good at seeing subtle differences in colour, and this trick (which I use regularly) I have found is the best way to see if there is any difference.

Rod is right that they both look green, but the eyes are also very good at playing tricks with us. The difference between green and blue green isn't much, especially if we look on a small screen.
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Posted 12/23/2020   06:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe MiNr. 56 a on the left, 56 b on the right.

Heres's an ebay lot with both (a on left, b on right).
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Posted 12/23/2020   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an image (I think from stampsx but I am not sure). It shows the year of issue in red below each stamp. Only the top center stamp is a "b"; the other 5 stamps are all "a".


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Posted 12/23/2020   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Buna Cupram,

Here is the link to what Germania reffered to for a bigger image from member wuerttemberger:

https://www.stampsx.com/forum/topic.php?id=1714&

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Posted 12/23/2020   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all.
I'm already starting to be unsure that it's "b" shade.
The blue green stamp is brighter due to insufficient printing ink.
I tried to take pictures of what is seen in the lens of the minimicroscope.







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Posted 12/24/2020   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Green is a combination of blue and yellow. If a green stamp has been poorly inked or chemically washed, or if it has merely faded, and if the yellow has been affected most, leaving the blue predominant (as seen in your microscope image), the stamp may then acquire the vaguely bluish (or grayish?) appearance that we see in your scans. Expertizing may be in order.
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Posted 12/24/2020   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you EMaxim.
Merry Christmas
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Posted 12/24/2020   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And best wishes to you, cupram, for a safe and happy new year. Hope to see more of your interesting and intelligent posts on this forum.
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Posted 12/25/2020   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Germania...

Do you know if there are catalogue varieties based on image size?

Thank you.

Jim/Calstamp
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Posted 12/25/2020   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Calstamp, the Michel catalog does not mention differences in image size for this series. That doesn't mean there aren't. Could be due to different paper used for printing. Specialist literature (which I don't have) may mention it. Here is one reference:
Handbuch der Wurttemberg-Philatelie: Kreuzerzeit (1851-1875) by Carlrichard Brühl
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Posted 12/25/2020   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Germania.

Will check APRL next week re the item you identified. And report back if anything new is revealed.
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Posted 12/25/2020   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Calstamp
Catalog varieties based on image size are found for Deutsches Reich (1875-1890) stamps Mi # 31 up to 50. There are 4 categories marked with A, B, C and D.
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