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Posted 01/08/2021   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So it would appear this book does have some use as reference!
When I seen unique dragons head only one I thought is it the authors personal opinions
Perhaps something he thought he had in his collection
But if there are other literatures about a dragons head variety
That's good news
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Posted 01/08/2021   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Question
The orange A10 example 1889-92 Scott #46 horizontal laid and the 1902-05 Scott #55 vertically laid
Was the stable used any other times or just the two three year runs?

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Posted 01/08/2021   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm looking for where wove paper fits in?
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Posted 01/09/2021   03:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The wove paper Arms were issued in 1909 (or in December 1908), but they are of a different design (A14-A15 as per Scott).
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Posted 01/09/2021   07:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps I'm mistaken then...wouldn't be my first time
I'm relatively new to all this so I may have miss identified
But looks like wove paper compared to the other examples I have




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Posted 01/09/2021   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my experience wove paper is best viewed on a clean, dry stamp.

Remember the "wove" described the steel mesh the wet paper laid upon,
(James Whatman 1702-1759)
Giving an overall uniform surface, to me like little tiny diamonds or dents.

Close inspection, usually confirms, once seen, never forgotten.
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Posted 01/09/2021   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I should give it a bath and dry it before I can be sure?
I took these while dry but still have gum and junk as well


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Posted 01/09/2021   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm probably just not seeing it


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Posted 01/09/2021   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My experience is that one finds from time to time such stamps with seemingly missing laid lines on the paper. I have in my collection 1k, 2k, 5k and 7k stamps from this series with "no visible laid lines" (that is my term).
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Posted 01/09/2021   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For more information on how this curiosity arises see here:





https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00052/55j


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Edited by vasia - 01/09/2021 11:41 am
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Posted 01/09/2021   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the coating on the paper takes off or fades the laid lines when soaked?
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Posted 01/09/2021   12:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that when the article mentions "incompletely dried paper" it refers to the initial preparation of the paper, i.e prior to the printing of the stamps. It is due to a differential treatment at that stage that the laid lines (or the watermark) become "invisible".
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Posted 01/09/2021   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So would that fall under a paper variety?

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Posted 01/09/2021   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Given that, as per the article, the laid lines form part of the watermark, one can possibly classify this as a watermark variety. Personally, I do keep such stamps as interesting varieties without worrying too much about what term to use.
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Posted 01/09/2021   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
horizontal on top vertical on bottom and one in the middle
Looks good to me! Until I add more ;)
I started this thread because of a book I bought and I gotta say as unsure as I was in the beginning about it has help me (with help here of course) find some fun things to add to my collection

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