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Booklet Single Vs Booklet Pane Of 6

 
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Posted 01/09/2021   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mstamping to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello friends, just a quick question.

Is the scotts number for a booklet pane of 6, the same number as a booklet single?

Example-Scotts # 374 1 cent green washington sheet stamp I'm assuming.. a booklet pane of 6 is 374a. Is a single of that same pane of 6
a 374a or is it still just a 374?

Thank you for your time,
Brian
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Posted 01/09/2021   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott does not list booklet singles; to the best of my knowledge they never have. So the listing in the Scott U. S. Specialized Catalog for 374a is for a booklet pane of 6. I have seen these booklet singles referenced in the stamp trade as (e.g.) "374a booklet single". The booklet single of the pane 374a should not be listed as 374 since their designs are of different sizes (booklet singles of this era have shorter and wider designs than their sheet stamp counterparts).
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Posted 01/09/2021   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mstamping to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your response. I will label it as 374a booklet single in my album. I also noticed the design size difference when I was figuring out the printing method on alot of these washington/franklin stamps. For instance- Different design size than tipical flat plate but had offset on the back so flateplate. I'm going to see if I can find anything on stampsmarter on design sizes.
Thanks again
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Posted 01/09/2021   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are welcome. I guess since the Scott editors chose to not list the booklet singles, they don't seem to give much info about the difference between design sizes of the flat plate booklet vs. sheet single stamps. (At least I find it difficult to locate that type info in my Scott U. S. Specialized.) FWIW, I think they made a good call on not listing the booklet singles. My assumption is that they knew that the vast majority of collectors were then (as they have been since) collecting these as panes and not singles.
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Posted 01/09/2021   6:59 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For Canadian stamps, Unitrade adds a suffix of "s" to the Scott booklet pane # to indicate a booklet single. So "374as" in the above example. It seems a good approach, and collectors definitely do collect those singles separately from sheet singles.
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Posted 01/09/2021   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mstamping to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome information. "As" sounds great to me. I appreciate it . It is definitely easier just buying a booklet pane of 6 than sorting through the stamps I have for a possible booklet single and than figuring out if it is actually a booklet or from a sheet.
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Scott will list booklet singles separately if there is some unique aspect such as different perforations but something simple as a straight edge would not create a new number. In my opinion, early US booklet singles deserve a separate catalog number for the single especially since they list so many "die scratch" variations in the Washington Franklins.

The s suffix is a good method. I had been adding a "-" plus a suffix to keep it separate from the "real" catalog number. The code would often depend on the stamp such as S123-W may mean Walsall printer or -Y for yellow phosphor.
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Posted 01/10/2021   08:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DeEll to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add to Rhett's comments, also keep in mind that the flat plate booklet stamps were printed on Special Booklet Paper. Knowing this, you can also distinguish between a sheet stamp with a straight edge and a straight edge booklet stamp, for a Flat Plate printing.
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Posted 01/11/2021   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mstamping to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What? I've been pulling the remaining hair out of my head for nothing? How do I tell which paper is booklet and Wich paper is sheet?
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For booklet panes of Flat-Plate printings only, the grain of the paper runs 90 degrees counter to the paper orientation used for regular sized definitive stamps. between dampening of the paper in all flat plate printing up to 1928 and then drying after printing, booklet stamps shrank a tiny bit vertically while ordinary sheet stamps shrank a tiny bit horizontally. meaning a booklet single 1c washington-franklin series 1908 can be measured shorter and wider a wee bit versus same design sheet single.

1928 is year that Bureau in washington stopped printing flat plate booklets switching to rotary press but had all that special grain paper used only for booklets. so they started using up that paper for regular sheets and that is why there are some special paper printings variations for flat plate series 1922 or Fourth Bureau series - the one with the half-cent Hale. Scott specialized started listing these in 2020 edition, it also has an article inside on this.
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