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Warning - New Active Cartel Seller ID "Stampsandcover" On Ebay

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Posted 03/03/2021   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Philip Ryle/Cartel listings are up and running and attracting a lot of bidding activity right now:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393148581099
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Posted 03/03/2021   08:50 am  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wasn't he prosecuted and serving time?
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Posted 03/03/2021   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
He has been in prison but some of his accounts have remained active. His girlfriend might be helping or other people but he is still in action.
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Posted 03/03/2021   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like I left eBay at the right time!
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Posted 03/03/2021   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting way to present this stuff. He/they show one stamp (the 15c) with a clear cert. Makes one think, "This looks like a good lot." Many of the others look regummed and/or reperfed, though. It is up to $2481 with almost 4 days remaining.

It's like watching a plane crash in slow motion. Glad I'm not on that plane.
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Posted 03/03/2021   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who in the world would spend 2500 on eBay w/o knowing the seller.
It really is the Wild West out there.
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Posted 03/03/2021   3:50 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The seller has 40+ eBay accounts, bidding up your own listing removes any concerns that it will not sell for what you want it to.
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Posted 03/03/2021   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ryle has used the "Nassau Street" con angle many times before. Some impressive stamp doctoring going on there too.
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Posted 03/03/2021   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a "mint Scott 12" from one of these Ryle group lots:



https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Early-i...393148645806

This is supposed to be Red Brown Scott 12. No, the yellowy color is not because of "scanner calibration". There is something very wrong here but Ryle relies upon greed and bargain hunting and inexperience on a buyers behalf to blind one to reality.
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Posted 03/03/2021   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why a certificate for only one stamp?
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Posted 03/04/2021   01:41 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've probably said this before about similar threads, but, for the casual reader (eg me) and, more importantly, for the people who collect these stamps and might be tempted to buy, it would be helpful if the particular problems with the stamps in these Cartel listings were identified.
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Posted 03/04/2021   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phillystamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seems Ralph Orton was a very early adopter of clear mounts. And they're so fresh and clean looking.
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Posted 03/04/2021   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Geoff - Point well taken. The problem becomes how lengthy and involved Ryle's deceptions are. Repeating it every time is a task. Performing a search on this forum will bring up a LOT of material as well as some victims personal stories. Suffice it to say that one would find info on forged certificates, shaved proofs, cleaned cancels, regummng, reperforating, misrepresentation to include knowingly wrong IDs, image manipulation, fake sales material, shill bidding, money laundering, swapping "sold" stamps between multiple eBay accounts repeatedly and so many other bad things. All brought to you by an imprisoned ( present and past) lifelong felonious conman who operates at the million pound level of cheating and deception. One of his many shining achievements has been creating fake passports using the IDs of dead Irish babies. I believe his current prison stay is related to almost one million pounds in tax fraud perpetrated on Her Majesty's Government.

Ryle has been operating on eBay since dinosaurs roamed the planet and although his accounts do get shut down at times he is never truly gone. It really is a joke when you consider the stories of other sellers that are members of this forum that were shut down temporarily over suspicion of money laundering or because they listed covers with the word "Cuba" involved.
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Posted 03/04/2021   11:41 am  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The thing to know about the cartel is that every sale is a fraud. Sometimes the stamps themselves are legit, but the shill bidding forces the price as high as they can get it. Sometimes the stamps look to good to be true, and they are. Buying anything from these ids is a bad idea always.
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Posted 03/04/2021   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just noticed that the gmail address for "stampsandcover" is the same as the as the gmail address for another cartel account, "bank-notes", save for one minor change. Hardly a coincidence. "bank-notes" is in use as well but is "idling" at the moment with mostly Buy-It-Now listings priced to avoid a real sale. This is also a typical MO for Ryle. One account starts scamming and the others go static. Once the dust settles the static account starts scamming and the first scamming account goes static or even dark.
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Posted 03/04/2021   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shill shills sell sucker.
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