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Surprising Find, A Thread Embedded In The Gum Of #319

 
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Posted 03/30/2021   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Phillystamper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Perhaps not surprising to the more experienced. I've had this stamp for ages and never noticed it! I've not been one to be overly concerned with gum condition in the past.


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Posted 03/31/2021   1:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice, I have never seen it before this post, that makes 2 LOL
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Posted 03/31/2021   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that the gum was applied at the time using broad paint brushes.

Rather than a "thread," this is just a portion of one of the bristles in the brush.

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Posted 03/31/2021   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phillystamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A brush wouldn't have a twisted fiber for a bristle I don't believe. When I first saw it I thought hair but on magnification one can see it is a twisted fiber. It's really fine, so maybe from a piece of silk? workman's bandana?
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Posted 03/31/2021   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps horsehair, twisted due to the brushing action...
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Posted 03/31/2021   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If someone is painting on glue with a brush, almost anything could have fallen into the glue vat.
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Posted 03/31/2021   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why is that surprising? When I go through a box of new (meaning old) stuff, my tongs are used for plucking hairs onto the floor rather than picking up stamps.
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Posted 03/31/2021   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phillystamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, I think it was a very different manufacturing process 120 yrs ago, big contrast with the hermetic sterile process of today.
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Posted 03/31/2021   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp looks regummed. This is the first I have heard of these stamps having original adhesive hand applied. Really?
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Posted 03/31/2021   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes things can contaminate the gum prior to and during application. Now while interesting, same on the paper side before printing would be a very nice find.

For me the photos are not clear enough to answer OG or regummed but there looks to be some ink offset on the gum. Look for small "gum balls" on the fibers at the tips of the perforations Philystamper and if there it is a regumming.

As to goodies which don't belong, captured flying insects on either side are my favorites.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 03/31/2021 11:20 pm
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Posted 03/31/2021   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As phily said , it could be a silk thread? Spun during manufacture. That would explain the twisting?
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Edited by No1philatelist - 03/31/2021 11:24 pm
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Posted 04/01/2021   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phillystamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at it under magnification you can see that the tips of the perforations don't have gum on them, you can also see the occasional fiber sticking out without any gum on it on the perfs. Where the stamp is creased there is a little section of the fiber out of the gum like a tiny bridge. Looking at it I wondered if the tips where disappearing into the paper. Finding a stamp with a bug in it would be very surprising, Or the silhouette of one in the ink.
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Posted 04/01/2021   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Good" regummers often use source stamps which require touching up hinge marks/thins. They simply mask the perfs and use a very fine airbrush to mist spray the gum, so the perfs tips would be normal looking. That said, I am not sure that a "good" regummer would be spending time on this stamp. The gum does look disturbed and my first thought was that something softened the gum (post production) and picked up the hair in the process.
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Posted 04/01/2021   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really am interested in how the gum was applied to these issues. Can somebody point me to production info regarding this?

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Posted 04/01/2021   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the PF:


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When gum is dried too quickly after the redistribution of the original gum, it will crackle all over



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If dried too slowly, the moist gum will run into the broken paper fibers around the perforations and their teeth


https://www.philatelicfoundation.or...en-regummed/
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