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1862 Cuba , Scott Has Only One A2 Image Listed

 
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Posted 04/30/2021   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Clovnfire to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So are the last three forgeries ? Or just not # 16 ?


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Posted 04/30/2021   5:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not an expert, just IMHO.

Some kind of reproductions (facsimiles).

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Posted 04/30/2021   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is a forgery of the 1/4R stamp. The other 3 are more like fantasies. They are pretending to be of the same design as the 1/4R, but other denominations never existed. I would guess they are all made by the same forger however. Among other giveaways is the fact that there is an outer frameline circling the stamps, which also didn't happen on the genuine stamps of this period. For comparisons, compare it to a common 4c orange, 1860 stamp from Spain, which this stamp has borrowed it's main design from.
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Posted 04/30/2021   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Among other things 1/4 stamp has wrong value tablet from original. Totally wrong, not even close. So definitely fantasies.
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Edited by danko - 04/30/2021 6:04 pm
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Posted 04/30/2021   6:11 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scroll down to the end of the 1862 section

http://stampforgeries.com/album-weeds-cuba/
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Posted 04/30/2021   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To expand and compare:

I have made scans of a color proof of the 2c in red, from Spain, as well as a genuine copy of the 1/4R from Cuba. They both used the same basic design and just altered the denomination portion to reflect the country monetary system

Note the circled areas. On yours, the left hand ribbon, with the shading in it has a distinct upward curve, which is prevalent in all 4 examples.

On my scan, that same area of the ribbon is basically flat.

On yours, the first C of CORREOS has the ends turned upward on the bottom, and downward on the upper arm.

On mine, the arms of the C point straight out, and look more like a U turned on it's side.

Start comparing other details and you will quickly see differences. The genuine ones are very crisp, whereas the forgeries are pretty crude.


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The crispness of impression comes from the genuine being typographed and the forgery/fakes being lithographed.
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Posted 04/30/2021   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Clovnfire to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The info here is Outstanding! Thanks all
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