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Posted 05/21/2021   07:31 am  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Roman States is an old term in English for the Papal possessions in Italy that Scott has maintained long past when it should have changed - Papal States or Papal State would be much better (Italian Stato Pontificio).

Not the only odd or obsolete naming convention that Scott contains to be sure.
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Posted 05/21/2021   08:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My set

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Posted 05/21/2021   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps 4 life ---nice ,all 5 volumes .
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Posted 05/21/2021   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tks - I thoroughly enjoy them, but they are fragile and I get, umm, a little tense every time I have to pull them down. As expected they are worn. I've been trying to figure out where to go from here... Subject of a different thread :) to be sure.
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Posted 05/22/2021   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rjan55 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saw an extensive presentation of Roman/Papal States at a ASDA show in NYC several years ago. I am a world collector and always assumed the bright multi-shaded copies I had were knock-offs. I was stunned by the colors in the originals which are deep and vibrant. I am sure suspect shades exist in forgeries but I had to go back to consider all the copies in my possession which I had assumed were all forgeries because of the colors.
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Posted 05/22/2021   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the most popular stamps that collectors will find .

M.J.B. MOENS ISSUES

The first reprints were made by USIGLI in 1878 to 1889 . These are all imperforated . Then 1889 Moens made his reprints, these are the stamps most likely to deceive the collector . Moens stamps come both imperforate and perf 12.The holes are small and irregular ,his stamps also come in various shades but are thinner paper than Usigli's


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Posted 05/22/2021   10:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Colorful too! Tks for posting. What a nice little collection. How did you happen to come by them?
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Posted 05/22/2021   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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I would look at Rhodesia and see if the Roman States share the last page. Ponta Delgata would be my next place to look.


If there were a prize, you'd get it.... . Thank you.

Look what I found in Part IV

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Posted 05/23/2021   03:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If there were a prize, you'd get it.... . Thank you.

Look what I found in Part IV


Which is what I posted before wkusau did.


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In my Big Blue, Roman States is stuck on half a page at the end of (and on same page as) Rhodesia.
Don

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Posted 05/23/2021   07:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Stamps4life , I have a decent size specialized collection of Roman States and their forgeries .What I did was buy 3 major works by other Philatelist and combine them to make my reference collection .
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Posted 05/23/2021   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If there were a prize, you'd get it.... . Thank you.

Look what I found in Part IV


Which is what I posted before wkusau did.


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In my Big Blue, Roman States is stuck on half a page at the end of (and on same page as) Rhodesia.
Don


Don , apologies..... What happened the 1st time (your post) I looked is entirely my oversite due to being a novice... When I looked as a result of your post, I looked at Rhodesia and Nyasaland end page. Not realizing there was just Rhodesia listed also.

Wm
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