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Miscut Postal Cards: Accident Or By Design

 
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Posted 06/24/2021   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add patg23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When I first came across these (UX19/S24), my first thought was someone is playing games;some people liking to create interesting things.

On searching UPSS articles,I found this guidance on miscut cards:

1.Is the card the correct size?yes
2.Are the inscription and indicium in the correct location on the card?No
3.Was the card sold to the public as single cards only or in sheets?Both
4.Is it from a single card or a message reply card? Single
5.Are there selvage markings on the card?No

Conclusion: Not miscut by government printers.

But after turning the cards over, I'd like to think it was just a thrifty New Englander not wanting to waste money.
The cards, when sent to the printers, were misaligned, then cut to the pre-printed backs for use.
There is also a card from the same company (used a bit earlier) that has both the front and back correctly aligned.

Vermont marble co. is still there.
https://vermontmarblemuseum.org/his...mont-marble/

As a bonus, nice flag and RR cancels.

Best to all,
pat



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Posted 06/24/2021   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How interesting! Do you know how many cards were in an uncut sheet? It seems as though at least one strip of the "stamps" would have been cut off to create these -- but they managed to prevent a total waste. I bet there was some strong language at the printing house!
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Posted 06/24/2021   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All US postal card since 1875 were available in full sheets to the public so they could be sent to a private printer to have the reverse printed ('preprinted') and THEN cut apart (by the public). As such, you can find all kinds of strange cuts, they have no real additional value and are considered "philatelic".
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Posted 06/24/2021   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From catalog:
Printed on a sheet fed Cottrell flatbed press in sheets of 120 (10 x 12). Sold in panes of 60 (5 x 12) and as single cards.


I'd say, most, but not all. As example:UX25(S35)
Printed on a web-fed Meisel, flatbed press in sheets of 28 (4 x 7). Not sold in sheets.
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Posted 06/25/2021   07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jobi01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All definitive postal cards were sold in sheets, not all postal cards. Miscut definitive postal cards are interesting to collect but also seem to be abundant. I have 43 articles that mention miscut US postal cards in my clipping file.
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Posted 06/25/2021   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The sheet size varies from issue to issue. Here is a sheet of 40 of UX27 with a Guthrie, Oklahoma roller cancel. One could cut all sorts of oddities from it.
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Posted 06/25/2021   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had wondered why they would roller cancel sheets like that, then I found this note in an article.



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Posted 06/25/2021   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Patg, could you supply a citation to the article you illustrate? Thanks.

Also possible as a favor cancel. About 1990 I took a sheet of cards around my home county and obtained various handstamps postmarks from each PO.
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Posted 06/25/2021   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ernie11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I once found a UX38 with a similar issue.


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Posted 06/25/2021   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John - Happy to.
UPSS - Postal Stationery #406 January-February 2016, Pg.36.

I found it when I was looking for articles on what constitutes a legitimate miscut.

I have seen some interesting traveling post mark covers. I do not think these are ones, as the one I showed is one nine similar blocks of four included in a a box of cards I am trying to bring order to.

And, not as pretty as the bold "CANCELLED" killers for the returned and damaged cards to the PO.

For some clarification: My intent on the original post (not well made), was to show that along with government miscuts, collector and scam artists creations, there could be legitimate reasons for what could end up as the finished issue. In this case happily sent through the mails.

Thanks,
Pat

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Posted 06/25/2021   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reference.

What do you mean by:

Quote:
traveling post mark

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Posted 06/25/2021   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I gave it a proper description:

But as you described. Carrying a cover(or sheet)from town to town collecting postmarks.
I have one around here somewhere,by a boy scout troop on their hiking/camping trip, carried from town to town collecting postmarks as they went.
Pat
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