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What Good Is USPS Tracking?

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Posted 12/27/2021   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We used to run into that problem too. Regularly, we'd get packages delivered to a house with the same house number but a completely different street name within the same zip code. We'd get theirs, they'd get ours at least a couple of times a year. We got to be good friends and would just drive by and drop off the offending package on each other's doorstep. All the calls in the world to the post office didn't change the situation.
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Posted 12/27/2021   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that mis-delivered items can be a significant part of the 'not received' issue.

This is exactly why I do not use stamps for postage on anything that I sell over $20-$25. This is also why I use a black Sharpie and mark out the ' ebay' logo on the shipping labels.

Ask yourself, if you were expecting a $100 stamp or cover in the mail and it was mis-delivered; does it increase or decrease the odds that the person who incorrectly received it might open it if was clearly marked as coming from an ebay sale? Doh.
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Posted 12/27/2021   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

To help with ebay marketing, since we all know that ebay struggles with name recognition, I have sent this label design to them for their consideration...


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Posted 12/27/2021   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I get items from one seller that must feel as if he owes his existence to ebay. ebay labels of course but also copiously sealed with that gaudy, multicolored ebay packing tape. To top it off he uses three inch diameter round ebay stickers to seal the packaging inside. The whole thing makes me feel.....dirty.
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Posted 12/28/2021   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Letterpress to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had a similar situation this month with an ebay order (a vintage magazine). It was shipped as Media Mail, from Connecticut, and it never seemed to leave that state. The tracking just said "USPS in Possession of Item" for two weeks...

It's not a big deal financially, since it cost less than $10, and I got a refund. It's a bummer that I don't get to have the item though.

Normally, USPS tracking is pretty good, seems comparable to the major private carriers. It's rare that it skips lots of steps. They did fail to meet their service promise on another package this month though, a Priority Mail package from Tucson to San Francisco. It took a week, when it should've been two days tops. Shipping that slow between adjacent states should be a lot cheaper than Priority, maybe the old "Parcel Post".

The bigger problem we have is wrong deliveries or mis-delivery. It's related to tracking in that they'll scan it as Delivered when it was not delivered, at least not to us. When I put in a case for missing packages that they scanned as Delivered, I ran into some profound stupidity and institutional apathy. The guy said "Well, it was scanned as delivered, and the GPS confirms it."

The problem there is that it's a cluster mailbox. The GPS is only telling them that their carrier was in the vicinity of a cluster mailbox. It doesn't confirm anything about where they put the package – which mailbox, for example. They had put it in the wrong box, which they do a lot. It's such an obvious thing – that given a cluster mailbox, a package scanned as Delivered and which the recipients are reporting they never received could easily have been put in the wrong box. I was amazed that he didn't account for that, that it wasn't a well understood phenomenon at this point in history. Also, given that clusters use locking mailboxes, the fact that it wasn't in our box was decisive. It was definitely not delivered to us, since it wasn't in our locked mailbox, and no one had broken into said mailbox. It's a logically different scenario, with different implications, than a missing package that was left on a porch.

I think it's important to keep in mind that the USPS is a coercive monopoly with captive customers (regarding letter mail, which no one else is allowed to offer – they leverage that monopoly and its saturated pre-existing routes to offer lower rates on package delivery and express services than the private carriers can offer). It's also an extremely large coercive monopoly, possibly the largest in the world (certainly the largest coercive monopoly mail carrier). Those facts have sturdy implications for their efficiency and quality, and the sense of entitlement and apathy you often see in their employees-for-life. It's actually impressive sometimes when they offer something innovative like Informed Delivery. They've got pockets of innovation, though it's not consistent over time. Humans don't know how to make a coercive monopoly a high-performance organization, or even simply as efficient as a private sector non-monopoly counterpart over the long term. We've never seen such a thing, and there's no science or framework for achieving it. As long as they're a coercive monopoly, they'll act like one.
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Posted 12/29/2021   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After sitting idle for 10 days, my package in Chicago should have been sent to Canada. But no. Try California ...not a happy camper.

Date Time Location Status
December 29, 2021 14:58 IN TRANSIT TO USPS TRACKING #: LX0fdsfdfdfds
December 28, 2021 21:00 LAX USPS ISC SHIPMENT ARRIVED AT CARRIER FACILITY
December 28, 2021 18:44 RANCHO DOMINGUEZ CA SHIPMENT ARRIVED AT CARRIER FACILITY
December 28, 2021 13:00 Rancho Dominguez SHIPMENT DEPARTED CARRIER FACILITY
December 28, 2021 12:44 Rancho Dominguez SHIPMENT ARRIVED AT CARRIER FACILITY
December 18, 2021 07:19 Carol Stream,IL,60197,US SHIPMENT ARRIVED AT CARRIER FACILITY
December 18, 2021 07:12 CAROL STREAM,IL,60199 DEPARTED SHIPPING PARTNER FACILITY, USPS AWAITING ITEM
December 18, 2021 07:01 CAROL STREAM,IL,60199,US SHIPMENT ARRIVED AT CARRIER FACILITY
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Posted 12/29/2021   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Close enough for government work.
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Posted 12/29/2021   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add adamscheer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Casey Magoo, I think I can understand how that shipment went to California. Whoever addressed it probably wrote CA on the envelope meaning Canada. The USPS would read that as California.

Similar thing happened to me not too long ago
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Posted 12/30/2021   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't that what postal codes are for?
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Posted 12/30/2021   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I buy from this place nearly every month. They usually send with a Flat Rate Envelope with the printed label only. The printing on these is tiny. There is plenty of room to use a larger font if they wanted to. The sender could also add my info in large writing, but they don't bother. I will just have to wait this out.
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Posted 01/07/2022   12:47 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/07/2022   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have three packages coming from Germany. They have been sitting in NY for twice as long as it took them to make it there from Germany. Just sitting in NY and occasionally they are scanned out and then back in again and then out and then.......
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Posted 01/07/2022   4:41 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They just want to wake up in a city that never sleeps, not in the boondocks. Chill.
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Posted 01/07/2022   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, my stuff is still in Californina. Auction lots I won an entire month ago.
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Posted 01/07/2022   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They just want to wake up in a city that never sleeps, not in the boondocks. Chill.


My boondocks are packed to the gills with New Yorker's that ran as fast as they could from Gotham. Hope they go back soon and take their Versace face diapers and Porsche SUV's with them.
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