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Grt Britain KeVII One Shilling Color Difference

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Posted 02/11/2022   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



Hello, hoping someone can explain the color difference on these 2. Is it just a printing shade difference or an error?
Thanks!
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Posted 02/11/2022   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott lists 138 as having four different colors:

Carmine and Dull Green
Scarlet and Dark Green
Scarlet and Deep Dark Green
Carmine and Light Green

There is also a version on Chalky paper, listed as 138d. That one is listed in two different colors:

Carmine and Dull Green
Scarlet and Dull Green

Good luck figuring out which ones you have, but I also have the same shade differences.
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Posted 02/11/2022   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very helpful and appreciated. Thank you so much!
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Posted 02/11/2022   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yours is a color change due to sun or chemicals ,the span of shades in the green is four or five shades
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Posted 02/11/2022   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also if you soak the Jubilee stamps don't they have a tendency to run- as in the color runs off and they fade easily?
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Posted 02/11/2022   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The QV and KE7 stamps of this design are notorious for fading when immersed in water. This was by design.
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Therefore, the identification of shades is considered unreliable for such used stamps. By at least some collectors, shade ID is unreliable for used stamps in general, i.e. is only applicable to well-preserved mint stamps even though catalog pricing is given for shades.
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Posted 02/11/2022   8:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I feel confident in saying the 2 on the right of the top row, and the bottom left are water damaged the watercauses the ink to dilute and run. The bottom row 2nd from the left might also be suffering from having got Wet. If I have to soak one of these jubilee style, multi coloured stamps I soak a wad of Kitchen towel and put the stamp face up on top of the damp paper checking frequenly to see the paper is not soaked and if the hinge remnant or whatever will come off. It's not a foolproof method but it almost always works for me.
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Posted 02/11/2022   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good advice Noocassel :) - aside from QV and KE7 Stamps are there others with this intentional fading when immersed in water? I ask because I receive some British Colony stamps in WW lots I purchase (and you know I collect GB) and at times I hesitate to soak the hinges off a used stamp - because I think about these issues and I do not want to ruin the stamps. Gracias Nora.
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Posted 02/11/2022   8:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Green and Bright Scarlet

Green and Carmine
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Posted 02/11/2022   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW, Love - mine is definitely faded!
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Top: De La Rue, Dull Green and Carmine on Ordinary paper
Centre, left to right: De La Rue, Dull Green and Scarlet, Deep Dull Green and Scarlet; on Chalk-surfaced paper
Bottom, left to right: Somerset House, Deep Green and Scarlet, Green and Scarlet, Green and Carmine.
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Posted 02/13/2022   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful. Very very nice.
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Posted 02/13/2022   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK for confirming what I post on 2-11-22,that there are a few shades of green in this stamp .
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Posted 02/14/2022   12:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done, rogdcam. Others may snipe, but these scans look exactly as they should to my eyes and monitor.

Mrita, the two definitive sets of Netherlands Indies of 1993-40 (Scott 164-88, 200-25) were also purposely made with fugitive inks. Bright reds of the 19th Century can be fugitive, like some US 2c Washington Small Banknotes and first Bureau issues, the Japan 1 yen with embossed chrysanthemum (Scott 84). You've maybe already found the red lozenges on airmail envelope paper can bleed during soaking. A short soak in rubbing alcohol (60%-70% type) afterwards might reduce or eliminate that staining.
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