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"Rare" Washington/Franklin Listings On Ebay

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Posted 03/15/2022   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jrbarkley to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i am wondering if anyone would have a guess at how many of the high dollar listings for "rare" varieties of one and two cent regular issue washington and franklin stamps. approx estimates of course.. maybe this is a poll? or could be I dunno. topic or poll probably covered a number of times over, I do still appreciate any members insights. or even direction to past posts..
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Posted 03/15/2022   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know about a previous post, but we did have some fun a while back discussing "rare" and variations of that term. Maybe someone will post that link, but my goal is to always ignore any ebay listing that says "rare" in the title.
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Posted 03/15/2022   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that at least 85% of the flat plate W/F coils listed are fake/altered/misdescribed. A large percentage of the "RARE!!!!!" type W/F listings are also misidentified and not rare stamps at all.
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Posted 03/15/2022   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jrbarkley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
guess thats why so many of those listings dont seem to get any bids.

is there any sort of unofficial or official quality standard for newly registered members 50 posts? I promise ill read the rules and post questions to appropriate forum as best I can. right now I want to---respectfully---take advantage of the vast knowledge available here without being too annoying asking for help identifying every single washington or franklin I've got on a postcard. I've got many other questions as well, so let me move on over to the introduction.
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Posted 03/15/2022   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The '50 quality post standard' is a subjective call for the Mods; if we think that a person is generating posts to quickly reach the 50-post requirement, we can take action.

From an etiquette perspective, posting a large number of images/requests for ID may not generate a lot of responses. Folks do not mind helping, but appraising an entire collection via images is not something that most members are interested in. The greatest number of feedbacks are normally received when the poster is seeking to learn; the community really steps up in those situations.
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Posted 03/15/2022   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jrbarkley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you don thats helps. I am for sure seeking some guidance on identification of a few specific items at some point. and I understand this isnt just somewhere I might get a freebie appraisal. and I wont pretend like im just here for purely educational purposes either. that said, I think the collective knowledge and willingness to help
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Posted 03/15/2022   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jrbarkley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
did I reach the max length for quick reply I guess. anyway, I really do think there isnt any other resource that compares to the value that is available in these forums.

more on that shortly.

not sure where I should go with this topic but im wondering if anyone has thoughts on ebays new collections beta for trading cards??
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Posted 03/15/2022   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jrbarkley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i know im a bit all over the place here, but I dont want to leave this topic altogether just yet, because a great portion of what I've got is a whole lot of red and green regular issues in used condition. common and pretty low value for the most part, however in large numbers I think the potential for some higher value used gems is there.
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Posted 03/16/2022   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Washington / Franklin series is a minefield in many areas while pretty straight forward in others. Coil stamps and watermarks are the bane of most.
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Posted 03/16/2022   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys might like this sheet that came inside a collection I bought some time back. We have nice online tools these days, but I thought this was pretty impressive. From a Chinese collector:

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Posted 03/16/2022   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Risny
Is there any "legend" regarding the letters and numbers what they mean for us neophytes?

A139 2c #358 Under "T" is that "bisect"?
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Posted 03/16/2022   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the T is for type, what is noted is 358, which is a bluish paper issue. The note under T is correspondingly "bluish". I am sure you know Mr. Rod, but the A139 is the Scott designation of the engraved image, all issues below on the list are of the same vignette, and a "two" to denote monitary value.
Was the collector Chinese or did this item appear in a Chinese collection you purchase Mr. Rinsy?
Cheers m
Edit for clarity
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Edited by GMC89 - 03/16/2022 11:31 am
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Posted 03/16/2022   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On further inspection Rod I stand corrected. T refers to notes on the list and "type"
In WF series there are different reengravings and Scott lists these as Type 1 or 2 or in the offsets of WW 1 I believe there are 6 types, mostly identified by the Toga and engraving of the left 2 and other minute I'd marks.
Dots on nose etc. etc. etc. Some sub types, i.e. 534A Which is a type 6, while 534 is a type Va, 533 is a type 5... You get the drift.... All Scot numbers
I hope this is clear...
Cheers once more, mark
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Posted 03/16/2022   12:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was a collection of US stamps made by a Chinese collector.
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Posted 03/16/2022   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The homemade chart looks a lot like the Micarelli Identification Guide to US Stamps.
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Posted 03/16/2022   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pcerio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like that chart, someone spent a lot of time on that and clearly, neatness counted!!
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