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Posted 04/05/2022   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Similar to Scott 3635, 2002, 37c Flag (Small 2002) Booklet singleton.
It has no microprint, so I am stumped, any ideas?
I cannot see any suitable sub series number to fit.
I am presuming the microprint would be under the black Pmk, (top red flag stripe) but I have no duplicates to compare.

These are as complicated as Machins, are there any small databases
around for these "Flag" sets?

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Posted 04/05/2022   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, this stamp had no microprinting as far as I know


Peter
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really! Wow, I'll have to get my nose back in the catalogue.
(Scott type A2812)
Cheers Peter.
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Edited by rod222 - 04/05/2022 8:29 pm
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Look for the yellow-green tagging and also their should be USA micro print in the top red strip. No? Then try 3635(CF1).
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are all under the (Bracketed 2002 - 2005 Flag Stamps)

Here is the Sc# 3633B with USA MICROPRINT
(Top Red Flag stripe ... seen clearly)

3633B 2002 A2812 37c Flag Coil USA Microprint 2005 inscription

I am going to presume any microprint on these remain on the pleat of the billowing flag. Top red stripe.

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Edited by rod222 - 04/05/2022 8:41 pm
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not aufait with the term CF1 (Aussie)
As shown in first scan, there is no Microprint that I can see.
That dismisses 3635

I have no Tagging ability, so they may remain unidentified.

I note the 2008 Flower stamps are unidentified also in Scott
just remain as "flowers"
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
3636
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Posted 04/05/2022   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right! Thank you.
I'll keep this as a ID for reference
Never would have gotten that.
3636 2002 A2812 37c Flag Small 2002 Bklt No Microprint 04
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Edited by rod222 - 04/05/2022 8:55 pm
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Posted 04/05/2022   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mstocky2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Check out this site. Hans van Gils has created some real nice checklists, with this series being one of them.

https://www.usca.nl/usa-canada-2/us...tive-issues/
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Posted 04/06/2022   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Super Wow!
That is something else!
Thanks mstocky2
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Posted 04/06/2022   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222: CF1 stands for CounterFeit 1 ... the first known counterfeit of a specific issue. There is a separate section of the U.S. Scott specialized catalogue that deals with counterfeits ... usually around page 1000.
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Posted 04/06/2022   12:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you JL
There's a first for me.
Counterfeit would have been my last guess.
Always learning.


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Quote:
rod222: CF1 stands for CounterFeit 1 ... the first known counterfeit of a specific issue. There is a separate section of the U.S. Scott specialized catalogue that deals with counterfeits ... usually around page 1000.



I am sorry as I thought you had a US Scott Specialized. But JLLebert kindly clued you in. The micro printing and yellow-green comments can be found in the lengthy footnote following the listing. In the 2022 cat, the counterfeit section starts on page 1015 and ends on page 1033. While the page number will float between various catalog years, the section occurs after the various OX flavors of Official Seals

As you seem to be lacking a current US Specialized, I will report the the prices for you. Unused booklet pane (of 6) $350, booklet single $15 with a used single $30 and still on cover $75. As modern go, you found a good one even though it was not what you expected.
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Posted 04/06/2022   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PPG
Thank you. I do have the Scott Specialised (2004)
A very generous gift by Moderator Kirk

I use it regularly for my "Cut Squares" collection
but not much else, perhaps the odd revenues I get.

I am not an advanced US collector, not much above
filling spaces in Steiner.
I do have a wide collection of US cinderellas and exhibition labels.

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Posted 04/06/2022   01:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I do have the Scott Specialised (2004)


In the index the section is listed as "postal counterfeits" in the alphabet order of the index, not that 2004 will do any good for the current stamp. However, do know the counterfeit section is not just postage stamps but back of the book including postal stationary.

I don't have one to do it to, but perhaps someone can slice the section out of a more modern US Specialized and mail it to you. The footnote text size is quite small and is a tough photocopy challenge.
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Posted 04/06/2022   02:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I shall have a look at my copy.
Only counterfeit I have on cover, is the Flag over Porch
That Wallmart thingie, if I recall. (Cinderella?)


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