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Netherlands
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Posted 04/17/2022   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Rod,

Not completely sure about the 500 dm.

The cover is filatelistic. That also means anything goes(unfortunately)

But my best guess is, that if you use value declared, the 500dm was the maximum amount covered.

If you google wertbrief. You shoud be able to find covers with red or sometimes dark orange labels.
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 04/17/2022   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers Johann,
chasing them up.
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United States
1017 Posts
Posted 04/17/2022   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is they choose the value to match the postage applied... That way they could potentially say "it's not philatelic, it has the correct postage". :)
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Australia
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Posted 04/18/2022   01:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right! that did pass my mind, but put no weight on it, at the time.
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Australia
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Posted 04/20/2022   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mutilated Stationery 2006
Sc# 2367 55c Mozart.


PRUSSIA Embossed Coat of Arms Rouletted
1 Silver Groschen (Brace)
TORGAU (boxed)
Sc# 17 1861

Can any member explain the postmark please?
I do not understand the code

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Edited by rod222 - 04/20/2022 10:56 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2941 Posts
Posted 04/20/2022   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

The first numbers are the day and month w/o a year -- 4 August. The last two are the time, 9-10. These early cancels (1860s) often had no years.
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Presenting the GermanStamps.net Collection - Germany, Colonies, & Occupied Territories, 1872-1945
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Posted 04/20/2022   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you PostmasterGS
I rarely see this material.

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United States
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Posted 04/22/2022   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an old Bavarian type TPO cancellation on an early Weimar Republic era postcard fragment. Cancel reads BISCHOFSGRUEN - NEUENMARKT 8 DEZ 22 ZUG 6. This is a very short route in the Bayreuth area.

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Posted 05/04/2022   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Germany : Private Post
Frankfurt . Main
1886 10th October, 2pf Blue
Mi #2


Unable to find this one.

Ooops, just realised MAINZ Page 148.
1886
Mi#2 pf Blue


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Posted 05/05/2022   02:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Germany : Private Post
WUPPERTAL
Courier 1896 3pf Yellow Green Mi#8


Feeling like these maybe forgeries.
Essen 1888 Mi#19 3pf Violet.

Essen 1888 Mi#22 Carmine-Blue
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Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 05/30/2022   02:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seeking a possible Postmark Identity? Info?

"BAOR" ? (Greek Mission)
Bad Salszuflen
Something to do with R.D.R (Repatriation Reparation, Deliveries and Retribution Division)
War retribution. 1949



Example of RDR Missions
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Edited by rod222 - 05/30/2022 06:55 am
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Australia
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Posted 05/30/2022   04:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May be of some help: BAOR = British Army of the Rhine

https://www.baor-locations.org/BFPO.aspx.html

BAOR 15 shown as Herford/Detmold/Bad Zalzulfen? (incorrect spelling - should be Bad Zalzuflen)

RDR = Reparations, Deliveries and Restitution Division

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Australia
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Posted 05/30/2022   06:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fabulous!
Thank you,
Bad Zalzuflen has not been confirmed
BAOR 15

I'll write to the webmaster and offer my cover for confirmation

BAL = British Army of Liberation
(Field Post Office 792)

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Edited by rod222 - 05/30/2022 06:56 am
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Canada
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Posted 07/03/2022   11:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking this one up was disturbing
Auschwitz,Oberschlesien?
02.10.41
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United States
2941 Posts
Posted 07/03/2022   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think that's Auschwitz. Not enough characters in "Auschwitz" for "(Oberschles)" to be shifted that far around to the right. Also, it's likely NITZ, not WITZ -- with most fonts in use at that time, the right line of the W would be at a slight diagonal, not vertical. I don't see any good matches for either in the StampsX database, though.
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